Finance committee  You're asking about a dollar impact on a CPP benefit for a person with dropouts versus a person without.

Finance committee  We don't know those numbers. The finance officials and the chief actuary's office were asked directly about that and they responded that they didn't have those figures and hadn't run them. They're really the only people who can do those kinds of calculations. As I said, the ave

Finance committee  No, and as I said today, it was a surprise to us to see they were not included. The signed document the finance ministers put out in June and the backgrounder they produced at the time said nothing about this, so it was only when we saw the legislation. During the years of talks

Finance committee  My view would be more in line with the Trudeau government of 1977, when they brought in this measure and said they were doing away with the subsidy that flowed from the unpaid work in the home that served to penalize the person doing that unpaid work under the CPP. They saw that

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the committee members for having CUPE here today. CUPE is Canada's largest trade union. We have 639,000 members across the country. Pensions are a very big deal for our members. Half of our members don't have good defined-benefit plans in t