Industry committee  Enforcement first is what I would say, if we're talking about options—enforcement or speed it up. We have decisions done and on the books that are not being paid. In just one of them, there is $9 million a year that is not being paid to our sector by the educational sector. This

Industry committee  I would just reiterate exactly that. We have certified tariffs on the books right now that are not being paid, so what is the point of having a quasi-judicial copyright board that makes these decisions if the decisions are not mandatory? As well, my personal experience with the

Industry committee  What I would say is that it's very hard to prove a negative, obviously. What I would say in response to that is that I think there has been a suppression of creation of new works since 2010 and 2012. It's very ironic and unfortunate, because in 2013 Alice Munro won the Nobel Priz

Industry committee  My understanding is that most of that number, or at least over half of that number, comes from the York trial, so we're talking about evidence. We're talking about actual testing of copying that happened on a university campus in Canada. The rest would be what's historical from t

Industry committee  We're well aware of the length of the timeline, and it's quite painful to us. I would say that the best quick fix right now would be the Copyright Board, speeding up the process of the Copyright Board, making the decisions of the Copyright Board clearly mandatory—which we believe

Industry committee  Is the question for me?

Industry committee  I think what actually happened in 2012, and before 2012, was that a false dichotomy was introduced into the debate, which is the idea that you describe, that users and creators are competing somehow over something. I'm a creator. All my members are creators. We are also users of

Industry committee  I'd go back to my earlier comment about the difference between individual and sectoral or industrial use. When we are talking about copyright in the context of industrial use, we have to consider markets, and when we are talking about user rights, which is a fairly new term, I be

Industry committee  Absolutely, something ties to volume, and something ties as well to administrative or industrial use. It's often conflated in the fair dealing debate, that it's just a student doing a single photocopy. That's not what we're talking about.

Industry committee  Absolutely. I have members who have contacted me to say that they're very sorry but they can't pay their dues this year because they don't have the dependable revenue that they used to have. It's not a pension. It's payment for use. Their work is still being used. The payment has

Industry committee  Sure. You seem to be looking for a number, and I don't know if I can provide a better number.

Industry committee  I appreciate the question. I think maybe one of the areas that we actually agree on is that bright lines are very difficult in terms of numbers when you're looking at fair dealing. I would instead look at it in terms of a condition, and that condition is that when an individual

Industry committee  No, I'm good. There's a legal model in the U.K., if you're interested, which is that fair dealing does not apply if a licence is available in education.

Industry committee  I mentioned that we're looking at a blockchain-enabled rights management system. That would be digital for sure. Just to back up a little.... I know we are in an age of technological advancement and I know education is changing. I have two kids who are heading to university in

Industry committee  I think the course management systems that were mentioned on the other side here are widely in use around the world, but in other jurisdictions they're in a licensing environment.