Veterans Affairs committee  The cost of our plane ticket out west—I live in New Brunswick—could range from $700 to over $1,000. Also, every time you'd see a naturopathic doctor for supplements, it would be $300 or $400 a month.

Veterans Affairs committee  Okay.

Veterans Affairs committee  Thank you.

Veterans Affairs committee  I don't know. He didn't use it very often because of the stigma of that. He didn't want that. We volunteer in the community. He did not want anybody.... Here's the public forum, gosh. Sorry, Marc.

Veterans Affairs committee  I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you wondering if they're taking the same method that we're taking?

Veterans Affairs committee  Some have tried. Other people are totally against it. It's something that was never part of their lives. They never experimented with it.

Veterans Affairs committee  It's getting over that bridge to look at it as a medication. Once you're in the military, that's very much a no-no, so it's getting over that mindset as well.

Veterans Affairs committee  I know. That's exactly what I had to say to my husband.

Veterans Affairs committee  It was until we found a different psychiatrist. We were in the hospital because he had tried to injure himself, and we met a different psychiatrist who had a different perspective and was willing to try this. I was very adamant. I had printouts of every medication he was on, with the side effects.

Veterans Affairs committee  That's the nabilone. That's what the psychiatrist tried. That's a prescription form. It took a process in order to get that approved, because it's not approved for this. There was the whole step by the psychiatrist, which took a lot of his time. The pharmacy was working filling out paperwork after paperwork for Veterans Affairs and Blue Cross to actually get it approved.

Veterans Affairs committee  I'm not sure. I don't know.

Veterans Affairs committee  No, definitely not.

Veterans Affairs committee  Marc was released in August 2012. He got in the VTP in the winter, so it was January 2016. This is brand new for us; we're in it one year.

Veterans Affairs committee  No.

Veterans Affairs committee  My husband found it himself. This is something that I think even gave him a bit more. I had to leave due to a safety thing and he was looking for help for himself and somehow stumbled upon it and got into the program.