Government Operations committee  I'd also like to mention that many whistle-blowers suffer from PTSD because of what they've gone through in terms of reprisals and so on. It's a big mental health issue.

Government Operations committee  I think there are a lot of factors here. We know from research that whistle-blowing doesn't take place in some organizations because there's such an open environment and competent management. When wrongdoing is reported to your boss, it just gets dealt with and there are no repe

Government Operations committee  The law is set up—

Government Operations committee  The law is set up to prevent whistle-blowers from ever getting a remedy because of.... It's a technical term. There are lots of problems, but there's no reverse onus at the tribunal. The employee has to prove that a reprisal was taken against them, and that's impossible. The burd

Government Operations committee  Gosh, that's almost incalculable. I would call to mind Phoenix and the $2.4 billion and counting—and it still doesn't work, by the way. That was a situation that was well known to hundreds of people, almost everyone who was directly involved in the project. There was a catchphr

Government Operations committee  As I said, I've no inside information on ArriveCAN. I'm not making any judgments on what this committee may conclude about the project. What I am saying is that if there has been wrongdoing within it, this committee is not going to find out through the current mechanisms. I'm n

Government Operations committee  No, absolutely not. I think the process of implementing this committee's recommendations and perhaps examining this new member's bill should go forward as urgently as possible. That committee, if they want to, can look at further improvements that would take our whistle-blowing

Government Operations committee  It does look odd, especially when you look at the pattern of very long delays when things are important, and then sudden action on something that I have said to me looks like a delaying tactic.

Government Operations committee  No. I don't have any information like that. I don't have any inside information. The only way I would know is if someone had decided to come to us and try to disclose something. There are other avenues. If they were public servants, they'd need to go to the Public Sector Integr

Government Operations committee  The safe channel that we provided was for people to get in touch with us and share information. That's just the first step. People had to trust us and trust that we would not do anything with it that would be damaging. The problem with the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner i

Government Operations committee  The typical process would be that they go to the integrity commissioner with a disclosure. There's then a lengthy process that could take over a year before it's even assessed to decide whether they're going to investigate. Investigations often take more than a year. At the end o

Government Operations committee  I couldn't give you that information. I'm sorry.

Government Operations committee  There's no obligation to tell the public or parliamentarians. The only person who gets to know immediately is the leader of the department. The individual isn't identified, but they are the person who is told. If the Integrity Commissioner decides to conduct an investigation, wh

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry. I'm only hearing French. Try again. I'm sorry.

Government Operations committee  You're asking about my experience in auditing these companies or auditing these organizations.