Government Operations committee  You know, in my job I thought I'd seen it all, but there's stuff I just couldn't make up. I just couldn't, when I see some of the things our employees get involved in—and it's not a huge proportion, but less than half a percent year to year. That's talking the big funnel. Maybe i

Government Operations committee  Within the RCMP, the PSDPA office is ensconced within the professional responsibility sector, which includes conduct, grievance recourse, adjudications, professional ethics, and human rights. I have a pretty good investigative capacity. I have a workplace responsibility support u

Government Operations committee  The policy decision on that was made when the PSDPA was created, and we were included. In our present circumstances, I think we could present a very reliable and defendable process that's separate from the PSDPA. I think, given recent history, I wouldn't be proposing any major ch

Government Operations committee  I'll start. We have created a commissioner's and a CO's commendation for individuals who show integrity and professionalism. We haven't nominated anybody or appointed that yet. There are individuals who have come forward with things that have been recognized, but none come to min

Government Operations committee  I don't think you can uncomplicate it, because when you're dealing with reprisals and wrongdoings and you've got other legislative provisions for us, and agencies have grievances and other processes, it's by its nature going to be complicated. I've identified three specific areas

Government Operations committee  I would see the PSDPA as capturing those that have been very badly dealt with. But in general, harassment type complaints should run through a process that's been created to deal with the harassment complaints that come forward. Last year, we had 242 complaints of harassment. Tha

Government Operations committee  Well, whether it were wrongdoing would be fact-specific. If a manager were consistently not dealing with harassment within her or his unit, you could get a situation of gross mismanagement of its not being dealt with. But if it's purely neglect, a portion of that would be capture

Government Operations committee  We did a climate survey a number of years ago, which showed us that we had a lot of work to do in that area. We've gone through a sea change since 2014 with the recent amendments. Quite frankly, I think our employees are kind of overwhelmed with the amount of information landing

Government Operations committee  Yes, I would say there's progress being made, but there's still a lot to be done.

Government Operations committee  Merci. I would echo the comments of my colleague. You have to understand this, I think, in two ways. One is to consider whether there is a legal framework under which employees can have protection, if necessary, if they come forward with something. I think the general view wo

Government Operations committee  Well, I think they are never going to have confidence in whatever you build. You try to build something that people are going to have confidence in generally, and I'm not of talking broad numbers here, but—

Government Operations committee  No, I'm not talking about the blue wall of silence. I've worked in provincial, federal, and municipal government, and there are in my experience employees who are not going to be persuaded that coming forward with allegations is a good thing to do—a small percentage. There is an

Government Operations committee  I think my colleagues partly answered that in saying that every agency will have different processes, and your previous witnesses explained that as well. But they permit employees to come forward, and it's not like one-stop shopping. It may be to the extent that they come forward

Government Operations committee  I didn't want to take up the time. It's a complicated piece of legislation, and the notion of having experts on it widespread throughout the agency, I think, is not one that's helpful. You're going to have to have dedicated experts who understand how it works, and you're going t

Government Operations committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I've heard your words, and I'll try to keep it to seven minutes. I am the professional responsibility officer for the RCMP, and with me is Ms. Jo-Anne Taylor, the manager of our PSDPA office. The RCMP has undertaken a number of legislative, policy, and pr