Public Accounts committee  To add to that and to reinforce what Cathy said, now that I understand the question, both on e-payroll.... Real-time payroll data is something we are working on. The government has made a commitment. We're in the process of building a business case. However, I would say to your

Public Accounts committee  On the postpayment verification for the CEWS, we received resources when the programs were implemented to have auditors and to do the compliance work, so it's not necessarily taking away, but at the end of the day it's probably a bit at the margin. In terms of the numbers of peo

Public Accounts committee  In theory, yes. The only question I'm asking myself as you ask the question is on quarterly reports. Is enough going to happen in a quarter to justify it as a report, or would we be better off using a different time frame? If you like, I can certainly get back to the committee.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I would have to get back to the committee with those statistics, and I'm happy to do so.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, no, I do not have it with me. Again, I can go back, and we can send that to the committee afterwards.

Public Accounts committee  You can rest assured that at the CRA we identify large, medium and small corporations that have gotten money they're not eligible for. That would apply to this program, and that would apply to the income tax and to the GST. Yes, we believe that it's our duty to Canadians to have

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, maybe I'll take the second question. You'll have to remind me of the first one, but the second question is on the dental and the housing benefit. I would say there's more prepayment verification in the dental and the housing, partially because of what we've learned th

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I don't have a view on that, about what's politically motivated or what isn't, but to your comment I would say that the reason there might still be a difference of opinion—and it might not even be just between the AG and ourselves; it could be between two other reasona

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, that's probably a better question for Cathy to answer, but we are into the process. Don't forget that we started in October 2020.

Public Accounts committee  Yup.

Public Accounts committee  No, no. Fair enough. We're into phase two now of our audit. We've done some and we're completing them. We know we're going to be in this until 2025. Cathy's probably going to kick me here, but I would say that by the end of the year we will have a much better sense of whether w

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, again, I'll defer to my colleagues to elaborate and to make that comparison. I would say that it's not very different from what we would have expected. In terms of our normal experiences, it's probably a bit higher, but I'll let Cathy or Marc take that.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I don't have the figures right in front of me, but I know that they are in the Auditor General's report, so she may be able to beat me to the punch on this one.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I'll ask Cathy to elaborate on that, but I don't think that the defined financial condition of the company was a consideration—

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I keep getting pushed to talk about what recommendations we might have made within the confines of discussions, so I'm not going to go there, but suffice it to say that we were part of the discussions and as we saw things we took note of them. You're right: If a compa