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Industry committee  However, it's not teaching aviation programs.

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Thank you for the question. Of the two programs the government has run in the past through ESDC, one's ongoing, the student work placement program. Those have been hugely beneficial for the industry. CCAA alone has put over 1,000 students into the workforce, and a high number of

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Absolutely. Again, CCAA has a high school program that is just extraordinary. High schools don't have the resources. There are only 30 high schools in Canada that are using it; there should be 300. Why aren't we doing it? High schools don't have the resources, but it's something

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Transport Canada has said numerous times that they're going to do this, that they recognize the deficiencies, but they don't have the resources. Six months ago they told a group of us, including me and Colleges and Institutes Canada, that they were going to get something out in

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Yes, it is true, Mr. Poilievre. It's because Transport Canada doesn't recognize the academic training that the individual took, regardless of their competency. If Transport Canada funded the development of a competency-based assessment system, that problem would go away.

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Thank you to the committee for inviting me back. Some of you may recall that in my appearance in March, I spoke about the critical shortage of skilled workers and the lack of training capacity in Canada to produce the graduates we need. I've b

April 20th, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Yes. Unfortunately for the licensed trades in Canada—pilots, aviation maintenance engineers—we do not use PLAR. We don't care about competence. As I alluded to earlier, an AME working in Germany for Lufthansa for 20 years on an Air Canada aircra

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  My pleasure. Thank you.

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Thank you, Mr. Garrison. I believe you had Mike Mueller from AIAC before you last week. He would have gone through the hundreds of thousands of jobs and the $90 billion contributed to GDP—the vast majority exported. That's not really what we focus on. It's the labour force, so

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Absolutely. You can have an engineer from Lufthansa who's been working there for 20 years on an Air Canada aircraft come to Canada and his credentials aren't recognized by Transport Canada because they can't validate what he studied—not his competency, but what he studied 20 year

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Thank you, Mr. Jowhari. I'll digress for just a second. As I alluded to a little bit earlier, I think the most useful thing that the government could do right now is to lay out a road map with industry. This isn't for public consumption, but it's sitting down with the airlines,

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  As I said, I apologize for the digression. I just wanted to make that point. In terms of increasing capacity, I think what we have to move to is more workplace-integrated learning, continuous workplace-integrated learning using new tools, virtual reality, online and blended, so

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  That's correct—and moving to competency-based learning instead of hours-based learning. If a student finishes a three-hour project in class in an hour, that student has to sit there for two hours doing nothing because the teacher has to recognize the three hours. We need competen

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  I apologize.

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald

Industry committee  Hopefully, industry will come on board. We have a number of companies, including KF, that have come on board to say that, yes, they're willing to work on developing continuous workplace learning training. Hopefully, if we can get a good pilot project going, industry picks up on i

March 23rd, 2021Committee meeting

Robert Donald