Natural Resources committee  According to the budget 2019 announcement, there was an additional $435 million, of which $130 million comes to NRCan over five years, with $10 million this year. Our package in terms of building the infrastructure will be closer to $130 million over the five years, but in the main estimates this year, it will show up as $10 million.

Natural Resources committee  I'm happy to do that. Through you, Chair, the particular thing you're referring to is the clean energy for rural and remote communities program, which is increasing by $7 million from last year. It was launched in budget 2017, the year before, so we've been ramping it up. In terms of some of the details, we have committed to supporting the deployment of renewable electricity technologies for $89 million.

Natural Resources committee  I don't have at my disposal a complete breakdown of the entire $10.9 million, but we'd be happy to come back with that.

Natural Resources committee  Well, you're absolutely right; that is what we dedicated the $10.9 million to, among other things, I think. The list that I mentioned was meant to be illustrative. It did establish 80 new charging units for electric vehicles, but there were also additional units related to natural gas, hydrogen, and so forth.

Natural Resources committee  Maybe to get us started I can underline that, as was announced recently, there is a pan-Canadian framework that is being slowly implemented beginning this year, but ramping up over the coming years. It's really a blueprint for reducing emissions, spurring innovation, adapting to climate change, and so forth.

Natural Resources committee  Tab 19.

Natural Resources committee  Yes. I could perhaps start us off, and then you could stop me if I get too much into the weeds. On transportation and alternative fuels, budget 2016 committed a total of $62.5 million to support things like electric vehicles, alternative fuel infrastructure, and so forth. This year, $10.9 million—which is what you have alluded to—of the $60.4 million in total will be invested in things like 80 new charging units for electric vehicles, as well as nine natural gas and three hydrogen fuelling stations along several key transportation corridors.

Natural Resources committee  Yes, it is.

Natural Resources committee  Exactly. Yes.

Natural Resources committee  Maybe I can ask a question. Are you referring to something you're specifically seeing in the main estimates?

Natural Resources committee  Yes, my apologies.

Natural Resources committee  Okay, that's a more complicated question, I would say. First of all, I'll give you a fancy accounting answer by saying, not very fancily, that this main estimates exercise is meant to be completely transparent by making reference to all dollars that come in and out, most of which we spend.

Natural Resources committee  We can certainly talk about it. Yes.

Natural Resources committee  One of the roles we play at NRCan is that we manage the accords related to these statutory obligations, and in managing them we do things like forecasting and monitoring. We're looking at the price of oil; we're looking at the fluctuations of production and making predictions. It's not simply a flow through.