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Justice committee  That's ultimately for other people to decide. My advice would be, I don't see how it's an upgrade. You have an officer of Parliament with superior court powers. You have a methodology. You have a track record. You have the training. There's not the slightest possibility of partia

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  I've watched public inquiries. We all have over the last while. They have the utility. They absolutely have the utility. But they, well, Gomery.... There are many, right? PCO actually provides the funding and the administrative support for inquiries. They have a particular charac

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  I commend anybody who's really interested in the topic to “Open and Accountable Government”, which is on the website, by the way. This is an old, analog paper copy of it, digital document. I just like to have it with me. I wear three hats. Minister Lametti wears two; I wear thre

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  One is I am the deputy minister to the Prime Minister. I run a department of 900 souls who support the functions of the Prime Minister, and you're familiar with many of them, to make sure that all the jobs the Prime Minister has, and he probably has six or seven hats, are well su

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  You know you can speak freely in the cabinet room because it goes in the vault—literally, in the vault—of confidences. There are situations where they should be disclosed. I know that some of you followed the Norman trial very closely. I made a decision, of my own volition, wit

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  I don't agree with that. I don't agree with the premise or the conclusion.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  Because there are appropriate conversations to have with the Attorney General in this kind of matter, and that is exactly the Shawcross line, and I think you will have to come to a view as to whether the Shawcross line was crossed or not.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  I will wrap it up quickly. She was deeply involved as minister of Justice, because these were matters of law on how the rights framework and all of the indigenous things.... And, of course, she had enormous power and influence because of her background and where she came from.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  The purpose of the meeting, why it was called, was the Prime Minister wanted to get momentum and traction back on the indigenous agenda.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  That's a big topic and I don't want to run out the clock on it. I have spoken about matters of Canadian governance probably 20, 30 or 40 times, and all of those speeches are on my website. For those watching, it's clerk.gc.ca. I've talked a lot about governance in Canada. I do t

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  Without watchdogs and transparency and a vigorous Parliament holding the executive to account, you're at risk.... I'll try to keep this short. I occupy a position that has existed for almost 800 years: the King's councillors and advisers. That is exactly what the Privy Council

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  One piece that might be relevant to you is where deferred prosecution agreements came from. They don't come into Canadian law through immaculate conception. They come as government bills, because there was a cabinet discussion—

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  There was a cabinet discussion in the spring. I would have the dates. Amendments aren't made to the Criminal Code by any minister other than the Minister of Justice, so the former minister of Justice and the minister responsible for procurement obviously were the ones who propose

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  There was never, never, never a cabinet conversation about the prosecution.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick

Justice committee  Is that okay? I hope that's helpful.

February 21st, 2019Committee meeting

Michael Wernick