Industry committee  That's correct.

Industry committee  The simple answer is I'm not sure why you wouldn't compare. It's a global economy. Those universities are the same as ours. The University of Utah receives about $400 million a year in research spend—

Industry committee  I don't accept the premise. It's a university. This is Utah, right? We have the University of Toronto, in the fourth largest city in North America. Utah is in the middle of nowhere and they're able to produce $52 million a year in licensing income. We can do that as a country. Ut

Industry committee  Thank you. I'll read my prepared remarks. Thank you sincerely to the committee for inviting me to share my views today. The subject on the table, technology transfer, is an area where I have deep interest, many years of experience, and a strong desire to see improve. I've been