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Industry committee  I would suggest that we measure first the value of the students who go to work in companies; second, the value of the collaborations; and a distant third, the value of the licences and patents.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  Researchers and companies often work with people close to them, so it's helpful to have somebody nearby. Georgian College in Barrie is certainly a source of research capability. One of the visions for the superclusters is to network capabilities into the supercluster. At NSERC, w

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  Ted mentioned open access. The key thing in getting technology out is that people have to know that there are 20,000 companies that do research in a particular year. We've talked about the 10,000 faculty we support. There are more who SSHRC supports. So it's a many-to-many proble

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  NSERC has a strategy that focuses on that continuum, and, as it is in business, it's a word-of-mouth business. “Oh, you managed to get that publication out, and you're working with this company, and the students got placed? Well, I want that too.” It's when peers show that this w

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  I would just like to underline that, as you know, your typical SME is going to make a decision on a project in days or weeks and is going to need to have the results in weeks. In that space, they are not particularly interested in defining a longer-term collaboration, and so the

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  I think IRAP with its 250 ITAs is excellent in working with companies. They reach 9,000 companies for advice. NSERC is partnering with 3,600 companies. My vision is that NSERC is helping de-risk technology for the small companies, and IRAP.... I shouldn't speak for it, but my sen

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  NSERC funds a program that provides support for equipment at colleges. The money we have for colleges is about the same as the amount we spend on university equipment in NSERC. The problem is it's a small budget and there's limited access. Selfishly, if we could grow that budget,

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  Sure. A technology access centre, on average, has between three and 10 employees. They're located in places as remote, let's say, as Grande Prairie and Victoriaville, I believe. Their business model is to offer technical services, small applied research projects, and specialized

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  Education is clearly an important part of that story, education in an informal fashion. As I say, these centres are connected to local actors, and they are able to help them connect to places to protect IP. Very often the colleges are going to be looking at this and asking wheth

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  I'd like to add the fact that patents are like publications. They are a marker of achievement. Here's some knowledge that I've realized. Researchers who collaborate with companies better understand the opportunities for innovations and therefore better align the research to the o

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  I'd just add one thing. About 20% of the collaborative projects that we fund result in tangible IP; probably 80% result in knowledge transfer; and 90% result in interactions that the company values enough to recommend to its peers.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  I think that's essential. Typically we have eight students involved in a collaborative project.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  Yes, per project, and one in three companies actually hires somebody from the project.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  That doesn't work. As a researcher, I've experience that. A patent is like a publication. It attracts the attention of companies. These people might have expertise, but what they want is not actually the patent; they want some version, some modification, or some adaptation.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg

Industry committee  The majority of the money is in training. It's again that you're training the next generation who will actually have the expertise and go to companies and help them innovate.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

Bert van den Berg