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Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, UNICEF, of course, is an organization for children. Our current director of ECPAT used to work for UNICEF, which has given us some funding. They are supportive and interested. If you're looking at the United Nations, I think UNICEF is a good point of contact.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  ECPAT Luxembourg did a report about best practices around the world, which is in English and French, so you could take a look at that. They did refer to the Beyond Borders' Man-to-Man campaign as a best practice. They referred to many others as well, so there are some. Of course,

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  We are in 86 countries. I must confess I can't list all 86 countries for you. I'd have to look that up. I could get back to you on it. There are 193 countries now. There are many countries in which we do not have a presence. We don't have comprehensive coverage. We'd like to have

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, there's something called the Bali Process. Canada is involved in the Bali Process, but it basically deals with crimes of trafficking and smuggling in Asia. It doesn't deal specifically with child sex trafficking, but it would be a component of that process. The Bali Proces

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  There is a problem. To a certain extent, this is a bit different from child sex trafficking. A lot of the organ trafficking is facilitated through brokers. I came back yesterday from Japan, where I talked about this issue. It happens there through brokers. With child sex traffick

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Although they are child-led and child-run, there are adult youth monitors who function as advisers, so there is a watchful eye over all of this.

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Of course we wouldn't make a payout if somebody asked for one. The problem isn't so much that; it's just bureaucracy. You have to get someone's approval, you have to fill out a form, and it has to go to this or that person. It just takes time. The level of bureaucracy and red ta

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Of course that's a problem everywhere. It's a particular problem in South Asia where the courts are extremely slow. All proceedings seem to take forever. Often what you're dealing with is a conflict of evidence, where the witness on one side is a child and the witness on the othe

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I think it's made it better. One of the things I saw recently when I was in India was government changing the currency. It withdrew all the 5,000 rupee notes—I think it was—which were relatively high denomination notes. The idea was that people were hiding this money and not payi

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I should say that we are concerned, particularly about sexual exploitation. We haven't focused on child marriage in particular. It's been more the commercial sexual exploitation, the prostitution and the child trafficking, and that sort of thing. We have member organizations in

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  As I mentioned, there are some difficulties. In dealing with a government, they don't like people outside of government interfering. Let them do their own thing. They don't like the idea of child participation because that, itself, is a cultural shift. They tend to think of child

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  First of all, I thank Mr. Sweet for taking note of that. I have been involved, in particular, regarding the killing of prisoners of conscience in China for their organs, primarily Falun Gong. There have been others as well—Tibetans, Uighurs, and house Christians—but in much smal

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  When you're dealing with cultural values that are contrary to human rights, you need a cultural shift. Obviously, people from Canada can help, but the cultural shift has to come from within. This is a problem also with female genital mutilation, which is both a human rights viol

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Canada has enacted a law that's extraterritorial, but there are very few prosecutions under it, so I think that's an area of law where there needs to be better enforcement, which to a certain extent is a matter of priority. Again, this isn't only a legal issue, but a cultural iss

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  In terms of enforcement, when it comes to the Criminal Code, the administration or the prosecution is provincial, because these are Criminal Code offences. I suppose what the Government of Canada could do is give more support to that. There is the issue of passports. Right now t

June 20th, 2017Committee meeting

David Matas