Transport committee  That's an interesting question, and I wish there were a short answer. Unfortunately, I think locomotives are currently equipped with LVVR. The only cost that the railways will see is for the maintenance of that and access to it. Positive train control or cab override systems or t

Transport committee  I don't want access to this data and I don't think the employer should have access to this data. If I could clarify one thing, Metrolinx does not employ any conductors or locomotive engineers.

Transport committee  Bombardier, yes, is the employer. Metrolinx is the umbrella organization, so they do not have any actual employees, which was the subject of the arbitration case and how that policy came to be.

Transport committee  That's correct.

Transport committee  I don't know that. I know that since that time there's been technology in place, through the Wi-Tronix, that can evaluate whether there is a cellphone signal being received or transmitted from a locomotive. It can tell you if a cellphone is on in a locomotive. That technology exi

Transport committee  Yes, I am. As I reported, there's been a couple fairly recently—I'd say within the last couple of years because it takes a while for an arbitration case to get through—showing abuse of video technology with respect to existing employees. There are currently outstanding grievance

Transport committee  I don't think it's appropriate that a manager does that, but the technology is live today.

Transport committee  That a manager is...?

Transport committee  The technology exists and it's currently for use by TSB only. That's what the law provides for today. What you're asking me, I guess the way I see it, is that if I know my rights are being violated, that's okay. I can't agree with that, I'm sorry.

Transport committee  I'm not familiar with what Metrolinx said yesterday, but I can tell you that Metrolinx, the GO train, which is obviously the largest conveyor of passengers in the country, has an exhaustive LVVR policy that was negotiated with the Teamsters Union—and the Ministry of Transport, an

Transport committee  The report just came out. I can't quote it verbatim. It was human error. I understand that fatigue may have been a factor, a piece of equipment.... There are a lot of other factors going on too. A light engine, which is a three-locomotive consist, crossed over into a freight trai

Transport committee  I don't know if it's bound to recur, but I would suggest that current legislation and what we are advocating TSB use in the event of an incident or accident would provide exactly what you're asking for. After that incident, the TSB would say, ”We have a problem; send us the foota

Transport committee  The short answer, as I said before, is that the custodians of the data should be the TSB in the event of an incident or accident. It should not go to an employer for whatever reason they want to use it, especially a vindictive employer, as we've seen over so long.

Transport committee  I would agree that people may expect that. The reality is that if I'm on a cellphone today, without LVVR, I'm fired. If I'm involved in a crossing accident and I'm on the cellphone, not only am I fired and never getting my job back, as the arbitral jurisprudence has upheld time a

Transport committee  The record is not the issue. If the data is used responsibly by the TSB for the purposes of investigation, and cellphones are shown to be the problem.... We know that cellphones are a problem. If a guy's on a cellphone, that's an issue. The concern is not necessarily cellphones