Health committee  I'm not here because of them, just so we're clear.

Health committee  I would say that we lobby for the interest of convenience store retailers.

Health committee  We lobby for every one of our members. I don't appreciate that we're being tailored to one product and one product only. Let's just be clear on something.

Health committee  We don't lobby for them. We lobby for ourselves because you have to understand our business. I don't think people have any understanding of what a convenience store is in this country, or what we do, or any of that.

Health committee  You are, because you're saying that the only reason I'm here today having a conversation about plain packaging is that I want to do it for the benefit of big tobacco. You need to understand something. It has nothing to gain from marijuana, or from cannabis, from any of that. It i

Health committee  Just let me finish. All I want to say is that I want to give you input on the experience we have. I personally have worked in a convenience store for over 30 years, selling tobacco. I've had experience with the big power walls, as they used to call them, with all the colours behi

Health committee  So if you want to make it look illegal, you might as well keep it illegal. What's the difference? You should be able to move a product and have quality assurances, and there should be things in place to show that this is a legal product. This is why it's here. We already have ov

Health committee  And they're selling it illegally. You don't think for a moment that, as soon as you come up with a standardized pack.... Think about that for a moment. You're going to come up with a standardized pack that could be made very easily by anyone. What would stop them from duplicating

Health committee  If you make something very easy to make.... I know we're comparing ourselves to jurisdictions across the world, but Canada is unique because we have some of the highest contraband rates in the world when it comes to tobacco, and the experience that we have in the tobacco sales...

Health committee  Stopping plain packaging...?

Health committee  It would have no impact.

Health committee  It would have no financial impact on our business.

Health committee  I don't understand how you think that we would lose 40% of our business. Do you think everybody would stop smoking tomorrow because of plain packaging?

Health committee  It doesn't make any sense.

Health committee  I'm sorry. Could you repeat the question?