Public Accounts committee  I think the member's question is a more general one. If it's about the specific fence, I'll ask Dan to handle that. I guess I would say that I don't regard coming to this committee and the time we spend—and I think the chair will back me up on this—as just surviving and then goi

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely. We are on track with every one of our commitments. Frequently the OAG does follow-up audits, and we do follow-up audits of our internal audits.

Public Accounts committee  It is.

Public Accounts committee  I would say that our colleagues are generally well informed of the situation. For example, when we're strengthening certain measures, we inform them that certain projects are under way, but that the work isn't finished. This type of information is available to them. However, you'

Public Accounts committee  Very simply, it always was mandatory, and not living up to that was a failing. As Heather indicated, we have increased the offerings of that one particular enhanced training program by 40% this year alone. More importantly, we have put in place the tracking system so we will be a

Public Accounts committee  We will have that conversation to add suspenders to the belt, Chair, but I believe that as a result of the approach we have taken to our management of security in the last couple of years, we can give you that assurance. In one of our regular and frequent meetings, we will have t

Public Accounts committee  I would ask Ms. Jeffrey to elaborate. I gather that you're talking about transparency. Is—

Public Accounts committee  I'm not, at this point in my comments, going to accept all of the assertions made. I would say that I think it is too soon for us to have learned all the lessons, because we still don't know a great deal of what we're dealing with. The test is always based on what you are findin

Public Accounts committee  I don't want to quibble, but I would say that the tense is important. It is an absolutely valid question, why were staff not given the appropriate training, but it wouldn't be accurate anymore to say why are staff not being given this adequate training, because this is something

Public Accounts committee  First of all, this typically—and in this case—doesn't arise through conscious decision. I think it happens because of a practical focus sometimes on moving resources out. When the proper planning and documentation systems aren't in place, they're not used. It does take a consciou

Public Accounts committee  I'll let Dan expand on that.

Public Accounts committee  The main change here is to move from a planning approach that would see projects being renewed on a cyclical basis. To take the analogy of a car, that would involve replacing the car every five years, for example. The approach we're taking is more based on a recognition that the

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely.

Public Accounts committee  I absolutely do. The resources, as we've indicated, cover not just the physical circumstances, the physical capacity, but also the training, documented and tracked with information systems, that we are giving to our staff when they go out, as well as the operational measures we'v

Public Accounts committee  Perhaps, Chair, we could address people, procurement, then money.