Industry committee  I can't speak for others, but IAB Canada is going to submit a more detailed brief. With respect, three pages is not sufficient for us to provide the range of types of use cases and other suggestions. We will present use cases so the committee can see how there is unnecessarily ex

Industry committee  I can speak on behalf of multiple companies, and I would add that certainly spam is hugely problematic for businesses too. They bear the cost. What we are trying to accomplish here is to reduce the cost of compliance, with the aim of the legislative scheme being that it should be

Industry committee  I'll start with a basic proposition. What we are hearing from clients every day is that, anytime you have uncertainty, you have risk, and that poses a problem. It doesn't completely stop innovation—that would be an overstatement—but it introduces a level of risk in which, in our

Industry committee  You could make changes consistent with Mr. Fekete's comments, and there's a ton of common ground with Dr. Geist. It might not appear that way, but there really is. You could make a series of tweaks to eliminate some unnecessary wording, to clarify the ambiguity—

Industry committee  For clarity, there isn't one enforcement body, but rather three, so it's quite complex. There's the Competition Bureau, depending on the provisions; the CRTC; and the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada. In fact, depending on the nature of a particular activity, you coul

Industry committee  Well, it can be cumbersome. The CRTC clearly has the necessary tools to appropriately enforce against bad actors. That, again, is not our issue. Our issue is enforcement against the good actors, that and their not being subject to disproportionate penalties for technical, immater

Industry committee  I completely agree, as I said in my opening remarks.

Industry committee  Now, depending on the message—and this illustrates the complexity—either subsection 6(6) might apply or one of several exemptions could apply. It depends on the very specific context.

Industry committee  It's a display, yes; it's not sent. It's completely outside the ambit of the legislation.

Industry committee  There were comments unfortunately made by the CRTC and in the RIAS statement by what was then Industry Canada about the potential application to IP addresses, which is not, in our view, there, and you cannot have this legislative scheme apply.

Industry committee  We need scope of clarity.

Industry committee  It was a similar point made—

Industry committee  That would be devastatingly bad, yes.

Industry committee  Well, it wasn't unclear until statements were made by the CRTC and in the RIAS about the potential concept of electronic addresses applying to IP addresses. That's totally outside the scope of this.

Industry committee  No.