Environment committee  From our perspective, Parks Canada has a mandate in that area, and although it's embedded in Treasury Board policy, we advise custodians that they're talking to Parks Canada when they need that concrete advice. That makes the most sense, because certainly the heritage expertise is not at Treasury Board—that's all in general administration.

Environment committee  I don't think that timing will align with your study, unfortunately. It was just recently launched. It wasn't funding announced, but it was a review that was launched.

Environment committee  I think that the government has lots of levers. We have sticks and carrots, so you want to make sure that you've examined the full range. We talked about how legislation trumps policy, for example, so it has to work together as a whole system. That would be my only advice. Make sure you look at the whole package, including the non-mandatory things we do, like sharing best practices and working with the real property and heritage communities to make sure that they're aware of some of the great successes we have and learn that they can adopt some of those practices themselves.

Environment committee  You're right. It is in policy as the recommended investment. We take the top 10 custodians, and we ask them every year how much they reinvested. You're right in that very few departments actually meet that level, but we don't have the analysis on the global level of what that means.

Environment committee  Yes, it is 2%.

Environment committee  I'll see what we can provide.

Environment committee  There wouldn't, no.

Environment committee  I will see if I can.

Environment committee  I'll see what I can do.

Environment committee  I can give you a global number for how much the federal government spends on real property. That's not specific to heritage but just property generally. You can find that in the public accounts document. We spent about $10 billion, based on 2015-16 public accounts on real property.

Environment committee  It was in that year, but it would probably be about the same. It depends. Sometimes when we have big capital projects, we'll have an influx of funding. Basically, custodians managed within their appropriations, so they're given funding on an annual basis based on the estimates—

Environment committee  Those 26 custodial departments. They're managing within their budgets and they're making their choices based on that, as Kevin can speak to being with a custodian department.

Environment committee  No. I don't have that information.

Environment committee  It's silent.

Environment committee  It would have to be based in legislation because, as you know, crown corporations operate at arm's length from the government, so the current legislative framework is that the Treasury Board administrative policy does not apply to them. There are different ways you could do that.