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National Defence committee  Great, thank you. Thank you, chair.

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  Yes, we see this. In terms of Russian misinformation and disinformation, just about every positive development has a counter-narrative. It can be done subtly or less subtly, to suggest to Ukrainians that it isn't quite as it seems, or in fact the Ukrainian armed forces are not tr

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  That's a great question. I rely very heavily on a whole network of Ukrainian players from civil society, around the think tanks, parliamentarians, everybody, to try to get ground truth. Also, the international communities stay pretty close with one another in the sense of being

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  Yes, exactly.

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  Thank you for that question. Some of the militias are fully integrated and some of them aren't. It gets a little to what some of the other witnesses said. There are still personal and private interests at play where people are kind of funding these militias for all sorts of dif

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  The national guard, yes, they report in slightly different ways. When the national guard is operating in defence of the country, it is actually chopped. It comes under the Ukrainian armed forces, so there is more unity of command there. On the issue of how all these security ser

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  I am concerned about time, although not so much because of the conflict, I must say. I'm concerned about time because we are running into the Ukrainian electoral cycle, and that will have its own dynamics, as you all know. I'm concerned about time because governments tend not to

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  It's an interesting question because we are an advisory board to the Ukrainian minister of defence. The extent to which there are what-ifs that he needs to look at as he looks out.... We discuss everything from the conflict to what if certain things don't go right within the refo

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  Yes, we've moved to training the trainer, and this is one of the things Canadians do so well. We move quite quickly within our task force—our 200 folks who are doing the training—to training the trainers. Actually, we have formal authority to move up what I call the value chain.

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  No, it isn't and I don't know why. Is it because they're in the middle of a war? Is it because there's other stuff going on? As I say, Hungary had that sort of approach. They said, “Either you meet these criteria and stay or you get out.”

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  I would say that they are doing some of this stuff. I've seen change in some of those senior folks. Whether it's appeasement or it's that they've recognized that resistance is futile because that's the way things are going, if people do the right thing for the wrong reasons, man,

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  That's okay. I'll question their motives later, but I'll take that, and we'll get on with it anyhow.

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  It's about the sustainability, exactly. I would just revert almost to point one, which I always remind myself. Unlike in many other places where we've tried reform, this is our helping Ukraine implement the reform that it has said it wants. Its president, its Rada, has said tha

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  I can give you a couple of thoughts, but this does go a little bit outside of my remit. Are we out of time?

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair

National Defence committee  Okay. It's a little bit beyond my remit. It's simply as somebody who goes back and forth and keeps her eyes open a little bit. Russia uses every available...it doesn't matter what. It could be by post. They use everything. The Ukraine government is conscious and Ukrainians are c

October 18th, 2017Committee meeting

Jill Sinclair