Justice committee  I'm going to direct questions to Lise Gotell.

Justice committee  Exactly. It reflects what I addressed in my submissions here today.

Justice committee  My name's Karen Segal. I'm counsel at LEAF, the Women's Legal Education and Action Fund. LEAF is an equality rights organization that, since 1985, has been involved in advancing women's substantive equality rights. We do that particularly through legal advocacy and litigation. In