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Public Accounts committee  There are a number of aspects to privacy and anonymity in this process. We're not because of privacy protecting perpetrators or people who have behaved inappropriately. Where we're focused on privacy is actually on the anonymity of person reporting the problem, generally at their

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  Certainly Dr. Preston is welcome to respond. Maybe I'll start with addressing Mr. Christopherson's question, which will lead into answering yours. You are not wrong. There were certainly growing pains. It is fair to say that there was tension between the entities that were respo

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  I am very aware of the quote that you're referencing. We believe, the leadership of the Canadian Armed Forces and the Department of National Defence, and agree with everything you've just said. Absolutely, we have to have a healthy, safe, respectful workplace for everybody who ch

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  No questions have been directed to her, but certainly Dr. Preston knows that she can speak up at any moment.

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  I think that any inappropriate behaviour that affects the safety of an individual in the Canadian Armed Forces is serious. It's something taken very seriously. I think we're no longer in crisis mode in terms of how we're responding. We're more measured and more thoughtful, using

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  Data collection, and the analysis and quality of that data, has been a problem. We have a lot of information. I'm not sure how we can draw conclusions from it as it's currently structured. Dr. Preston, in her role now as the lead for this, is working with our data analytics crew

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  There has been culture change and there has been an understanding of what is considered a level of acceptable behaviour and what is not. I'm not sure we can assign the word "significant" to it yet because we don't have the data for that. One of the problems pointed out by the Au

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  As we said, the duty to report means that an individual who has been affected or is at the centre of an incident has a responsibility to report. That's going to continue, but we are going to manage it in a different way. Bystanders have to report. The other ways include outside

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  That's a very complex question. It's something that we discussed at great length with the Auditor General as we were going through the report. We don't yet know the root causes. We're not sociologists, but we understand that we recruit from society, and there are problems in scho

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  I'll invite General Wynnyk to speak to that as well. I think the auditor, Madam Deschamps, had given us empirical evidence that there was a problem, yes. Our job is to try to rectify it and ensure that we have a safe and healthy workplace for every single member of the Canadian A

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  Thank you. I'm happy to start, and then certainly my colleagues can jump in. The conduct of the Canadian Armed Forces in what they do on behalf of this country is critical. If there is a lack of trust in the person you're working beside, and if there is a corrosive and toxic be

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  I would agree that there was confusion in terms of how to report and who to report to. The attempt to make this as broad a field, as broad an opportunity as possible—to go to the military police, your chain of command, clergy within the military, the medical system within the mil

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  I'll ask General Wynnyk to respond to that.

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  Operation Honour was designed and conceived originally for the Canadian Armed Forces. We are now transitioning all the principles, the teachings and the materials to include the civilian members of the Department of National Defence.

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the invitation to discuss the Auditor General's findings on inappropriate sexual behaviour in the Canadian Armed Forces. Joining me, as noted by the chair, are Lieutenant-General Paul Wynnyk, the vice chief of the defence staff; Dr. Denise Preston, executive direct

January 29th, 2019Committee meeting

Jody Thomas