Transport committee  No, actually the way it's packaged, there is actually air inside here and that helps with the compression in terms of the transportation. I could cut this open and there'd be no leaching. I could cut it into 20 pieces, and every individual piece would still float and wouldn't leach.

Transport committee  Let me turn it over to Ross. That's one of the studies we're looking at.

Transport committee  Yes. We have done some work. In the product context, I don't think we necessarily have more information in the context of the bill itself. The key parameter of the bill that makes us outside the bill is really that the product would move in bulk freighters. It would not move in a tanker.

Transport committee  Every indication is that we can. The producers we've worked with so far, who have put the numbers in their own model, feel the same way. The key thing is that it's comparable to the crude oil that's moving in a pipeline in which the diluent can be 30% to 40% of the product shipment.

Transport committee  We think we're competitive, definitely.

Transport committee  Thank you.

Transport committee  Thank you.

Transport committee  The next key step is really this pilot project we are undertaking. We have gone out to the marketplace to look for an engineering, procurement, and construction firm to help us in that endeavour. We are rapidly advancing that and narrowing in on the chosen provider. As Ross mentioned, we would be gearing up to do a kind of pilot project at some point next year.

Transport committee  We haven't engaged yet in terms of business councils. Certainly our focus has been on the R and D side. Ross can speak to some of the partners we've been engaging with in our fate-in-the-environment study and greenhouse gas life-cycle study. Our engagement on the commercial side has really been with interested producers at this point.

Transport committee  Off the top of my head, I don't have that number, but certainly in terms of capacity constraints, the network that goes to Prince Rupert, for example, is high-quality rail. There is capacity on it. Certainly with the appropriate lead time, we have the ability to add incremental capacity to our network.

Transport committee  Yes. With enough lead time, we could bring the capacity required.

Transport committee  We are in dialogue with a number of Canadian producers, all under non-disclosure agreements. We also have had initial discussions with people who could potentially refine it on the other end. At this point, I would say that there is strong commercial interest in the product and in following its development.

Transport committee  We have not requested an exemption. Our understanding, from the proposed legislation, is that this product would be excluded from the legislation.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  It is in a zip-lock bag because it is oil and it smells like oil, so you can open it, but that's the disclosure.