Human Resources committee  Sure. If I understand correctly, you're talking about services after someone dies.

Human Resources committee  Yes, okay. In working in palliative care, one of the things that we know is really important is having the conversation about advanced care planning. As my colleague here has said, people don't think about it, don't prepare for it, and they sure don't prepare for death. Somet

Human Resources committee  I would agree with Janet. It really has to be a team model, and if I've learned anything—

Human Resources committee  I think it should be within the community care spectrum. For instance, currently in Ontario, there is the former CCAC, which is now called home and community care, linked with our LHIN. I see end-of-life care as part of that continuum. There should be a special pot of money but n

Human Resources committee  Absolutely.

Human Resources committee  I'm not sure if this quite answers your question, but the first priority is to make hospice palliative care services accessible to the entire population. Right now, it is not accessible. We don't have enough resources. We certainly don't have enough beds, and we don't have enough

Human Resources committee  That's really interesting. We do a lot of training with our staff and volunteers even on language around admission so that we're not asking people their gender, for example, or husband or wife. It's partly presenting yourself as an inclusive organization that I hope will break do

Human Resources committee  Our funding is provincial. We're funded through the LHIN, our local health integration network, which is, as you know, our arm of the health ministry funding. We're funded differently for our community and our residential programs, but in total it works out to less than 60% of ou

Human Resources committee  Yes, exactly, and I would even add that most of our volunteers are seniors, depending on what the age cut-off is. It's very fulfilling work for seniors. They play a really key role, for sure, in the work we do.

Human Resources committee  As I said earlier, I do see the end-of-life strategy as part of aging and seniors and how critical it is to stop fooling ourselves. Not only are we going to need more supports, but we all eventually will die, and it's very costly to die in a hospital. Nobody wants to die in a hos

Human Resources committee  I can only speak from the Ontario perspective. I think we actually have made some good strides in Ontario in the coordination of hospice palliative care. All the LHINs are required to have a coordinated regional palliative care program. It's not perfect, but at least everybody's

Human Resources committee  We are really fortunate in the city of Ottawa. Hospice Care Ottawa does not have a particular target of street-involved population, but we have another partner in the community called the Ottawa Mission. Their entire focus is the street and homeless population. What we find with

Human Resources committee  Yes, that's not what I'm saying exists; I'm saying that's what I think we need, because that chronic population is going to be all of us. We're all living longer, and it will be seniors and supporting people wherever they are, whether that is in their home or—

Human Resources committee  Absolutely.

Human Resources committee  While I would agree—I support what you say, Janet—I think where I'm coming from is that obviously those people who are at end of life.... The reality, to put it frankly, is that the older you get, the more chance you have of dying. I'm sure you all know that. It's not something w