Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's an interesting question. In the police vehicles you see on the Hill, there are a couple of defibrillators within those, but as we said, we're moving away from the RCMP vehicles into PPS vehicles. I will talk to our operations folks. Right now, I don't believe there are def

Procedure and House Affairs committee  They will be PPS vehicles. It's a vehicle rated for law enforcement.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It will be equipped for the specific operational unit that's using it. In this case, it will have firearms capacity.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We have actually gotten a lot of interaction with our partners—federal parliaments, for a lack of a better term—in Australia, the U.K. and those sorts of places in terms of operational information, but no, I have no information in terms of their labour structure. I can certainly

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I understand the question, Mr. Cullen, and thank you for that. The one thing I mentioned, I believe, previously in this committee—and I will try to explain—is that within the legislation that created PPS, under the Parliament of Canada Act, there were aspects on which we sought

Procedure and House Affairs committee  They have been considerably reduced.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's a rare occurrence now that we have to force somebody to take overtime, whereas at one time when I first arrived it was a fairly common thing. You have the numbers, Mr. Graham, in terms of how much we're spending on overtime versus what we did before.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm sorry. I don't have actual numbers for you, but what I can tell you is that when I first arrived in this chair it was a daily occurrence that we needed to...well, not daily. It was virtually a daily occurrence that we needed to bring somebody in on overtime and often had to o

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Certainly.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Certainly.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In terms of the labour structure...? I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that, sir. I would have to seek it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe it expired in 2014.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe, though I would have to refer to my administration and personnel officer—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It was 2017, early.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That application is ongoing, and we are still in the midst of hearings with the labour board. We had several of them over the course of the last couple of months, and right now we have dates right up until May 2019, prior to a decision being rendered.