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Public Safety committee  Some victims don't want that. Some individuals don't want any connection at all. Some are very active in wanting to be informed and kept in the loop.

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  In an institution, it's organized mayhem. You're managing 30-plus offenders, and as a parole officer, you're the central person for everything in terms of problems in the unit. There's a lot of, as I'll call it, managing dysfunction, and then trying to target whether, for example

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Now they're only getting one program that theoretically meets everything, which I somewhat doubt, so there is no drug-related or violence-focused.... It's not happening. There's one program to fit all, roughly speaking.

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Well, it's the assessment, but it's also the resources to deal with the assessment. Just telling someone they have fetal alcohol syndrome or PTSD, if there's no way to treat them.... There might not be a solution, but right now we don't even have that initial information.

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  There are different things. They talk about actuarial tools, and there are a whole bunch of those. Then there are professional judgment tools, which means you're the parole officer looking at that offender and the situations that happen. There's entering the system—you enter as a

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Well, it's hard to explain. It's okay. Thank you.

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  I want to say technically almost nothing, and I would suspect many of the inmates on my caseload suffered from that. However, it's thousands of dollars, and who's going to pay for and do the assessment? Inside of CSC, when we say someone's mental health is stable, we're compari

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Invest in front-line staff in the institutions.

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  The impact of the harassment, bullying, and high stress because of the work environment is outrageous, and Edmonton's not alone. It's across Canada. It's happening in B.C. It's happening in Ontario. It's happening in Quebec. It's been happening for decades. My opinion is that it'

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  My best analogy is when I look at the typical suburban kid, the 19-year-old or 20-year-old young adult, who does something bad, and the supports they have. In some ways, if we're going to have the same results, we need to mirror those supports. You need education, and that exists

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  I think one thing is that you have to go to them. I don't want to call it marketing, but you have to go and recruit the best people possible. The process is outrageously long. When I entered as a correctional officer, I then had to go for three months and not get paid, so you hav

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Generally speaking, many of the inmates who come in don't have any ID. They don't have health cards. They don't have a driver's licence. They have nothing. To access health, you need a health card. If you're in the province of Alberta, Alberta won't give you one, so by the way,

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  Hi. My name is Zef Ordman. I started in Correctional Service Canada as a correctional officer, and then I became a parole officer. In that role, I also became a crisis negotiator and hostage negotiator inside the institution. As for my experiences inside the federal institution

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman

Public Safety committee  There's always the potential. I use the word “inmate” because when you're in prison, you're an inmate. When you're out, you're an offender. Here is one of the difficulties I see. Someone asks, “What do you do as a parole officer?” Well, at Bowden Institution, which has about 7

November 7th, 2017Committee meeting

Zef Ordman