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Environment committee  I won't belabour the two things I talked about—slash burning and pressure standards—but I would like to take one second to talk about something the federal government is doing well. We work with the trade commission offices overseas, and also with Natural Resources Canada's expan

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  It is a safety issue because there are pressure standards.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  That's why it's a safety issue, so they're being cautious. They have to be educated. We're going through that process. They're perfectly safe in Europe. There have been no issues, but we have to convince the regulators here, the engineers and everybody. They have to understand it

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  It's the same at Heathrow Airport.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  It's all economies of scale.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  In Newfoundland, I know there have been some ups and downs with wood pellets. There was one previously in the Northern Peninsula that didn't work. I think the challenge in Newfoundland has been the scale. You don't have a large enough sawmill industry, so there aren't enough resi

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  Quickly, with regard to the boiler standards and why the Canadians won't accept them, I don't have a good answer for that. For a long time, boilers have been made to ASME standards, which work perfectly well for fossil fuels. Biomass fuels are relatively new, and the boiler man

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  I think the economics have changed. Wood pellets are clearly.... If you look at the hierarchy of costs, generally speaking, across Canada, the lowest-cost heating fuel is natural gas; second-lowest is wood pellets; third-lowest is oil and fourth would be propane. Of course, if yo

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  Against hydroelectricity, it is cheaper, except in Quebec, where there's some particularly low-cost electricity.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  Absolutely. With these products that my colleagues from FPInnovations are talking about, anything that can be stored for the long term—if you can make a product and have it stored in solid wood or in some sort of carbon form or whatever—the longer you can store the carbon for, th

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  Generally speaking, the legislation is different in every province. It's provincially managed, but it's usually up to the forest companies to do the reforestation.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  Yes. It's hard to believe.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  I'm sorry I can't respond in French. You'd go home with a headache if I did. In areas that are very close to pellet plants, we find we can get access to residues, but as we go further out it becomes challenging. We've worked with primary forest companies, and they've charged us

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  We looked at some of those things. Maybe they'll come to pass. Typically with those fast-growing crops, you end up with high amounts of carbon and nitrogen, so you end up with corrosive types of fuels. The faster-growing and the more deciduous, the higher the amount of chlorine.

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray

Environment committee  I looked at the potential based on Statistics Canada's data. I have it in my presentation, which I think will eventually get to you. I've looked at the number of gigajoules—a unit of energy—consumed in the 50% of Canada that is not covered by the natural gas grid. If we took 100%

December 6th, 2018Committee meeting

Gordon Murray