Public Safety committee  At the municipal level, the members who are liaising with INSET, at the RCMP, have top secret security clearance. Again, information is going from national security headquarters to the respective INSET. We are updated on certain files on a regular basis. Our members who are worki

Public Safety committee  Certainly we've embraced training related to that front-line encounter within our own department. It's sponsored largely by the RCMP with the first responder terrorism awareness program. That's providing training throughout the country. Front-line officers are aware of what to lo

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  The encryption on the device, whether it's a phone or a computer, is such that we don't have the technology that would allow us to circumvent or overcome the encryption. The evidence that could be contained within that device is kept from us. That's one issue. What we'll find in

Public Safety committee  There is a danger in that, and I think we have to be precise in terms of the affidavit that's being drafted to gain access to that device, and in terms of the understanding of the justice or magistrate who's issuing that warrant that we're prescribed about where we can search and

Public Safety committee  Chief, can I just interject?

Public Safety committee  More so now than even in the last few years, I think we're looking at what appears to be the end of the caliphate. Where do these fighters go? I think what you're seeing in Europe and in the U.K. and potentially in the United States, could very well be reflected in what we see in

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  I can't speak for the CSE, but I would say that if you're looking at it in terms of law enforcement in Canada, we're having to seek judicial authorization to obtain this information. We're being challenged day in and day out by encryption. We're not arbitrarily going in and sea

Public Safety committee  Four high-risk travellers have been charged in absentia. As Chief Martin said, trying to collect the evidence of what foreign fighters were up to overseas is difficult in a theatre of war. We may collect evidence or be provided evidence, information, or intelligence, but this com

Public Safety committee  I'll start. I don't know if there is an easy answer to that question. I'd say that the barrier of encryption prevents us from obtaining a full picture of the evidence that is in the possession of the individual the police are investigating. I've talked to some of my tech crime

Public Safety committee  On the heels of the chief's remarks, looking at it again, and from a municipal perspective, we're attempting to increase our number of secondments to RCMP E Division INSET unit. We currently have only two members seconded. We're going to three, but I would like to see that increa

Public Safety committee  Chief, can I jump in?

Public Safety committee  On the point you just made, to prove a component of a threat to the security of Canada, we're looking at having to collect evidence that demonstrates the crime was motivated by political, religious, or ideological objectives within Canada. The issue we have—and, again, you've a

Public Safety committee  Legislative reform is required to keep pace with the changing technologies—that's the bottom line—everything from data preservation standards for corporations that hold data, as they're getting shorter and shorter, so that it's more of a challenge for police to collect that data.