Official Languages committee  I think it was internally that it was decided. Overall—

Official Languages committee  —there has been a move away from—

Official Languages committee  Yes.

Official Languages committee  I'm going to say I don't think we had good or adequate measures to be able to say that. I don't think we had the measures right.

Official Languages committee  Yes.

Official Languages committee  Thank you very much for the invitation.

Official Languages committee  It's almost ad hoc. If you actually look at the projects that have been funded, first of all, you've probably been told that a lot of the monies allocated by Treasury Board to the Office of Literacy and Essential Skills in fact haven't been expended, so there is money that gets l

Official Languages committee  Right.

Official Languages committee  In 2006, there was a big policy shift. In 2007, the National Literacy Secretariat was replaced by the Office of Literacy and Essential Skills.

Official Languages committee  That caused more difficulty because it narrowed the focus even more than it had been before. That's also when the federal-provincial agreements ended. They didn't end in 2014; they ended in 2007. There has not been a federal-provincial agreement since 2007.

Official Languages committee  Thank you very much.

Official Languages committee  I think some of it was very subtle. Some of it has been addressed in the answer to previous questions. As the federal policy narrowed and changed and they began to demand that organizations focus their work that way, it changed the nature of the work that organizations were doin

Official Languages committee  Do you want to speak to that, Margo?

Official Languages committee  I'm going to say honestly that I have not looked specifically at the numeracy numbers.

Official Languages committee  I could certainly do that, but—