Canadian Heritage committee  If I may just clarify one point, what we're proposing here is that the site, the Rodier building, be the first site entirely dedicated to cultural and creative entrepreneurship. It's not that La Piscine is pretending to be necessarily the only one of its kind in our city.

Canadian Heritage committee  No. We think about it from an organizational point of view. Today's cultural and heritage organizations are designed to not necessarily be able to optimize their missions in today's world, based on cultural participation factors such as fostering the blockbuster culture, as you m

Canadian Heritage committee  My third recommendation was to support cultural hubs in their operation and programming.

Canadian Heritage committee  We hope there will be a hybrid model, that there will be some business revenue, but we also think there's a private-public partnership here as well, that the governments will help us generate both economic and—

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely.

Canadian Heritage committee  We're looking at a diverse model.

Canadian Heritage committee  [Technical difficulty—Editor] as well but I think we have to think hyperlocally and we have to respond to what is actually happening on the ground. It's clear from what we've seen through this study and here today that there is no one-size-fits-all for anything, and there is no o

Canadian Heritage committee  That's a key thing. I don't know whether you want to speak to social—

Canadian Heritage committee  It's an excellent question. I'll speak a little bit also to Mr. Hogg's question, because the two questions align. We're a non-profit organization, but we're also partners with a real estate developer who specializes in restoring heritage buildings and managing them, so we have

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm good. Your time is my time.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, sure. I have one more recommendation.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's to support cultural hubs in their operation and their development. To actually operate these things, there are currently no programs available, beyond the infrastructure. We need to operate them and manage them effectively and we need to program them in ways that can catalyz

Canadian Heritage committee  Sure.

Canadian Heritage committee  We don't have anything on hand right now that speaks to the economic impact, but we know that there are many models. Most of them are led by boards of trade and those kinds of things. We know, however, that from an economic point of view, whether for tourism development and/or lo

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you. I will expedite this. In our view, cultural hubs, at their core, not only validate and recognize artists and creators in their valorization of their art form, creative discipline, practice, organization, or business, but to their community and society at large. They