Declaration of Emergency committee  No. We actually saw clarity on the freezing. That was one of our very initial questions—the scope of the freezing. We asked questions: Could ongoing payments continue to go through? Was there an opportunity to have, for example, humanitarian measures to allow for minimum withdraw

Declaration of Emergency committee  It was blanket that once we were allowed to unfreeze, it was a complete unfreeze. We asked the question that if there is no forfeiture, can we just completely provide access? We were told that yes, once they're off the list or the order is revoked, you completely unfreeze.

Declaration of Emergency committee  That's correct.

Declaration of Emergency committee  We provided this information on a white label basis to the Department of Finance and also to the public commission. All of the personal information was redacted for privacy reasons.

Declaration of Emergency committee  My answer was that I would have to address the issues of privacy. I'm happy to come back to you on what I would be able to provide. I was giving, by way of comparison, what I have been able to provide so far.

Declaration of Emergency committee  The RCMP.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Never.

Declaration of Emergency committee  First we received confirmation of whether or not we should treat these individuals as designated persons. RCMP confirmed they should be treated as designated persons. Once that was confirmed, we used those names to match against accounts within our members' organizations, and if

Declaration of Emergency committee  The decision to freeze an account was on the RCMP, who said that this was a designated person. Once identified, if we had that account, the order required us to freeze it.

Declaration of Emergency committee  That's correct. It's similar to how censures work.

Declaration of Emergency committee  That is correct.

Declaration of Emergency committee  We unfroze bank accounts when the RCMP indicated that the individuals were no longer to be considered designated persons. There was also a situation where an individual was able to show one of our members that they were no longer in Ottawa and participating in those activities

Declaration of Emergency committee  No.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'll disagree on this point. I don't think it was leeway....

Declaration of Emergency committee  The basis of the decision was that someone was on the list as a designated person. Again, my point would be that there was no discretion there. We had a legal obligation to freeze if someone was a designated person.