Canadian Heritage committee  I would only say that, going back to the ISP discussion that we had, it's not necessarily all about remuneration, although it would certainly be nice if we could negotiate that. One of the things that has been brought up is the ability to require ISPs to issue site-blocking injun

Canadian Heritage committee  No. I did receive from my ISP a free subscription to Spotify for a year as part of a wireless package. This certainly is value of music at the ISP level. I'm not sure that I can speak to any international initiatives to establish new remuneration models necessarily. I could certa

Canadian Heritage committee  I think it's a matter of potentially putting less in and not more. It's not limiting rights to particular platforms. It's making rights general and stating them in general terms, which is really where we started before this slew of new exceptions came in. To the extent that ther

Canadian Heritage committee  I really think it all comes back down to value as the issue. I don't think anyone has a problem with their content being.... Again, with Taylor Swift it's more of an artist concern, and we're primarily looking at it from a publisher—

Canadian Heritage committee  There's a statement potentially against that platform, but from our perspective it's all about the value return that we get from them. One of the issues as well with exceptions is that.... There are two things that we have as rights holders. There's the right to be renumerated f

Canadian Heritage committee  I certainly can't speak to Liz Rose or any particular artist's or writer's royalties in particular. Certainly, when you have a hit song in 2018, the royalties are still substantial. The substantial royalties aren't really coming from the digital services, from what we've seen. We

Canadian Heritage committee  That really depends on what was on that compilation. There may be some sound recordings that have lapsed into the public domain. There may have been some that weren't, or are newer recordings of those older songs that are still protected. Certainly most of the compositions would

Canadian Heritage committee  They're prepared to spend those five easy payments. Most people are going for the 12 easy payments and getting everything, but it's good to know that's still there. I think behind the scenes everyone is still getting paid.

Canadian Heritage committee  It's probably a licence royalty per master. On a compilation, that would be ordinarily somewhere in the range of 10¢ to 15¢ per track.

Canadian Heritage committee  Then there would be a physical, or what we call on the publishing side, a mechanical royalty, to the extent that these are protected compositions, which is 8.1¢ per song in Canada. If you do the math on that and look at the retail markup, he's probably still doing okay. When you

Canadian Heritage committee  Certainly. I'll turn to the Conductor question first. Conductor is a software solution that we've developed for internal purposes over the past five or six years. It does everything from ingesting the deals that we use when we enter into a new agreement with a writer or we purcha

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm not entirely sure I got the full question there, but I think certainly the result of digital has been that there is a lot more access, and—

Canadian Heritage committee  In a way, I think you are right. Financially, certainly, it seems to be worse because the numbers aren't coming in that reflect the increased consumption. We certainly have more access to music and more consumption of music than we probably ever had, which is a good thing when yo

Canadian Heritage committee  Speaking as a music publisher, I would say the music publishers actually have one of the most creator-friendly remuneration models there are. There are several types of deals that we do, but for the typical publishing, which you may have heard of from the Canadian Music Publisher

Canadian Heritage committee  It's an essential way in which we all use music. I won't speculate, but most people who have smart phones are using them for music, and it's certainly the way we listen to and consume music. We're in a pennies business more and more these days. We can't discount what appear to