Fisheries committee  Thank you for that. I want to move to another thing you mentioned in your presentation and that I had jotted down before today's meeting. It is that the penalties have to be not just the cost of doing business. I think you're spot-on there. In the lobster industry in particula

Fisheries committee  Right.

Fisheries committee  I know that repeat offenders—

Fisheries committee  Yes. For repeat offenders, that is factored in when a judge is imposing a sentence. Repeat offenders are supposed to be getting higher fines, but you're saying that it's still not enough.

Fisheries committee  Because my time is limited, I want to turn to the issue of illegal product and the black market, which is a real problem, particularly in the lobster industry. I know you touched on this issue. A black market obviously suppresses the value of the legally and responsibly caught pr

Fisheries committee  Great. Thanks a lot, Mr. Berry.

Fisheries committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Thank you to all the witnesses for joining us today. I heard a number of excellent points made, and I'd like to start with you, Mr. Berry. I wanted to bring this study forward and I know we're at the end of the parliamentary session, so we're unl

Fisheries committee  Just so I understand, my understanding—and I could be wrong—is that to move a motion, it would have to be related to the topic that we are here to discuss today. Otherwise it could be considered a notice of that motion, which requires 48 hours' notice. Am I correct? Okay, so th

Fisheries committee  I would suggest, Mr. Chair, that the motion is outside the scope of Bill S-238 for today. Therefore, I would suggest that it be considered a notice of that motion, which requires 48 hours.

Fisheries committee  Was that on chinook salmon?

Fisheries committee  We're here to talk about shark finning, Mr. Chair, and he's talking about looking into chinook salmon.

Fisheries committee  Before we vote on the substance of the motion, I will say that we have an awful lot on our plate between now and when this session ends in a couple of weeks' time. The motion is asking for travel. It would be extremely difficult for staff of the committee to arrange that travel a

Fisheries committee  I understand, but if when people are caught they feel like the fine is not sufficient to prevent them from doing it again, or whatever, then in practice is it going to be effective? That's the question.

Fisheries committee  That's the maximum, right? There's no minimum penalty, correct?

Fisheries committee  Sure. You can get back to me on that. Do you know whether CBSA would have the ability or the enforcement mechanism, if they became aware of a practice in a restaurant or of some other person using shark fins, to investigate whether things have been imported?