National Defence committee  That's right.

National Defence committee  In our work at the Dallaire initiative, for example, we have MOUs with five different entities right now, where we're already writing doctrine. Sierra Leone passed through doctrine in December as a result of the work we did with the Canadian Armed Forces. We just completed an int

National Defence committee  It is in line with the standard operating procedure. I helped with the writing of the standard operating procedures for NATO, and then followed on with helping with the Vancouver principles, so I'm speaking from knowledge of the information put into both of those things. For com

National Defence committee  That's right.

National Defence committee  Yes. I think it's incredibly important. There could be training cells that exist at Kingston or in other areas of the country—

National Defence committee  —but there has to be an approach to have an academic or research centre that is attached to those and collaborates with them. When you're conducting the training, you also need to have that ability to collate the information and understand if you have best practices. As well, h

National Defence committee  No, it does not.

National Defence committee  The example of the cyberwarfare that was brought up was research we conducted, which now NATO is asking us to come in two weeks' time to present because it's new. We look at the gaps that exist and where we can get ahead of the curve.

National Defence committee  I just want to highlight that whatever Canada should be bringing—you get the issue I'm going to tell you—that should be brought there. The Vancouver principles created revitalization of a commitment to an issue that Canada used to have many years ago when it first started back in

National Defence committee  You have Iraq. You also have Myanmar, Somalia, South Sudan, and Yemen. Did I name seven there? I think the other was the Central African Republic.

National Defence committee  Yes.

National Defence committee  There's no problem with integrating it into the training, but I think that first we have to create a capability of understanding the specialized dynamic of it, and then how it could be inserted. One of the things we need to do is to look at how we work with those groups—whether i

National Defence committee  I think it's important that there are ways to bridge information gaps and approaches, but that means thinking about it carefully because, yes, a lot of the NGOs on the ground still don't want to collaborate with the military actors on the ground, for good reason. There are group

National Defence committee  Thank you for that opportunity. First of all, being clear that one of the things that we need to do as a smaller nation, with a relatively smaller set of troops that we contribute, is to also be really clear on niches that we may have and not try to take on everything that exist

National Defence committee  Yes.