Industry committee  Kelsey, you made a comment earlier that the right to read should be right to mine. That's a great line. I haven't heard that one before. Should we differentiate in any way between a person reading something and a machine reading something?

Industry committee  Ms. Aspiazu, do you have comments on that as well? You seem to.

Industry committee  Okay, now—

Industry committee  As I understand it, you're allowed to circumvent a technological protection measure for visual impairment, so you can use it. If something is protected, you're able to reverse engineer that legally. What are the resources required to do that? If you have a device that has digital

Industry committee  Yes. It's DRM in the U.S., and TPM in Canada.

Industry committee  Okay. I have a few seconds left. David, do you have a quick question.?

Industry committee  Thank you. Mr. Simpson, you held up a device earlier. What is that thing called?

Industry committee  Is there any technology that exists, regardless of cost right now, that you can point at a piece of paper and it will read it to you? To take the text to—

Industry committee  OCR, thank you—to the next level, does that technology exist or is it in development? Have we heard about it?

Industry committee  Have you used such a device, Mr. Greco?

Industry committee  For somebody who is visually impaired or outright blind, how much does it cost in extra things you need to get through life? Is there any way of quantifying that for us?

Industry committee  Thank you.

Industry committee  Let the record show that Mr. Masse doesn't think he has a real job. That's just a point there. I'll stay on TPMs, which Mr. Lametti has gone into at length. The fair dealing exceptions apply to a whole lot of things. There are many situations where you have fair dealing exceptio

Industry committee  If somebody produced something that has a TPM on it, that's locked, TPM definitions tell us that the fact that it's on a computer could be defined as a TPM in the first place. My simple question is, if somebody has a TPM and you want to access that data for your analysis, shoul

Industry committee  Should reverse engineering itself be legal?