Industry committee  Thank you. I want to get back to Crown copyright, but I want to make a quick observation first. If the Berne convention had been written under current law, I think it would be coming out of copyright just about now. That's just food for thought. If we wanted to, as a committee,

Industry committee  Are there any other comments?

Industry committee  I like it when it's fast. Thank you. There's a topic we haven't discussed at all in this study, and I think we probably should have. That's software patents. I'm sure you all have positions and thoughts on that. First of all, what are your positions, very quickly, on software p

Industry committee  That's fair. I don't have time for long answers, but I appreciate your comments. Mr. Tarantino?

Industry committee  I like the concurrence motions. Yes, go for it.

Industry committee  I was just looking at it quickly. If software was always written under current copyright law, I think that stuff written for any act would now be out of copyright. That's sort of a worrisome way of looking at it. It's kind of obsolete. Is our copyright regime not actually strong

Industry committee  Mr. Chisick, I have a question for you too. You talked about 22% of the value for broadcasters' backup copies. If they're actual backup copies, where is the problem?

Industry committee  I have only a half a minute left here, but I'm just trying to understand the issue, because you've brought up this major point about the money that they're not spending on.... If they use the main copy or the backup copy to broadcast something, what's the difference?

Industry committee  We've always had the right to format shifting. If I buy something that I convert to the computer and I broadcast it, that's the backup copy, and if you add a monetary value.... This all doesn't connect very well to me.

Industry committee  My time is up. Thanks.

Industry committee  Thank you. I have enough questions to go around. It might be a bit of a game of whack-a-mole here. We talked a bit about the need to go to basically collective enforcement rather than individual enforcement of copyright because it's no longer manageable. How can collective co

Industry committee  Talking about abuse, we certainly see the abuse. Google and Facebook were here a couple of weeks ago. They admitted they only look at larger copyright holders when they're doing their enforcement systems. They admit they don't care about Canadian exemptions under fair dealing. Th

Industry committee  I don't have a lot of time so I'll move on. Mr. Geist, I mentioned Facebook and Google's testimony a minute ago where they identified that they don't make any effort to enforce fair dealing. You are familiar with that. Do you have any comments or thoughts on that from your sense

Industry committee  Thank you. I'm going to share my time with Mr. Longfield. If you can cut me off at the halfway point, I'd appreciate it.

Industry committee  Thank you. Ms. Chapdelaine, you talked about fair dealing as a more fluid model, if we could call it that. How do you see that actually looking, in the law? If there aren't specific fair dealing exceptions, what would it say?