Public Safety committee  First of all, we work with the offenders. There are different reasons for a transfer, so they're definitely involved in the process. In terms of notifying victims, in this case, as I said, we notified them the morning of. Normally, for medium security, according to legislation,

Public Safety committee  Again, in this case, we did the security classification. We did the transfer and, as per legislation, we notified the victims the morning of, but moving forward—and this is what I was saying in French—now, when we consider a transfer, when we're going to support a transfer, we wi

Public Safety committee  I wouldn't say that he was put ahead of the victims. Again, we—

Public Safety committee  First of all, we would have considered as well in the transfer decision any victim statement they had provided. That would have been part, definitely, of the—

Public Safety committee  No, there are two things. If the victims submit a victim statement, an updated one, that's considered in the transfer process. In terms of the notification, once it was decided that he was going to be transferred, again, we followed the law and the policies. However, moving for

Public Safety committee  According to the ministerial directive, when considering the transfer of an inmate, it's vital to contact the victims, inform them of the process, talk to them and ask them if they want to update their statement. I think that this is really important. I've had a chance to talk to

Public Safety committee  I've spent so much time with Correctional Service Canada. It's tough to hear that Canadians no longer trust our decisions. As commissioner, I don't want this to be the case. I'd like to invite all committee members to visit our institutions and see the work that we do. I'm very

Public Safety committee  It's 40 years.

Public Safety committee  No, actually.... Obviously, when I started, you had to write your reports. There were no computers. There was no social media. However, at the core, I was a parole officer—that's how I started. We did the same thing. We assessed areas. We transferred inmates to minimum. Actually

Public Safety committee  I want to say.... Because our staff does phenomenal work in very challenging circumstances, I just want to thank them.

Public Safety committee  I have five seconds. Very quickly, the people who are in maximum security are those whose behaviour we cannot manage elsewhere. They assault staff. They throw urine on staff. They stab each other. These—

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Yes, for 30 consecutive years.

Public Safety committee  First of all, it's very important to say that the actuarial tools help anchor the clinical judgment of the parole officer. It's really a tool to assist. We look at institutional adjustment and any incidents, escape history, street stability, alcohol or drug use, age at the time

Public Safety committee  Yes.