Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  The only scenario under which the north would have been left out of our report would be if both departments did not include anything related to the north, which would be very surprising given that it's an important part of their mandate. If they did not include anything related

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We did that report after Russia invaded Ukraine. There were lots of questions about the NATO target of hitting 2% of GDP allocated to national defence. We looked at the plans that were known at that time for military expenditures. We found that there was a gap of between $13 bil

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's a good point as well. I believe that the additional investments and expenditures made over the years, that is to say the additional funding allocated to the two departments, have made it difficult to plan their human resources. For example, if they anticipate at the beginn

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We use publicly available data. HR was not explicitly mentioned in this publicly available data. When we released a report last year, I'm not aware that the departments reached out to us and specifically mentioned that HR was the number one issue they were faced with. It is one

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's one of the issues that we have flagged. Targets changed over time. There are also issues where we identified that the goal, or the DRI, the departmental result indicator, has a target and a date to complete, but that has changed compared with the previous year. The depar

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It varied depending on the year. It goes from nine out of 24 in 2018-19 to four out of 14 in 2022-23. Mark can correct me, or kick me under the table if I'm wrong.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  By and large....

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We didn't want to have a very long report by listing each and every one of them, so instead we made reference to the departmental results reports or the departmental publications. They're referenced at the end of the report, in the notes, I think—yes.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Off memory, I think we're talking about targets such as the numbers for housing built or the number of reserves without a boil water advisory. I'd have to go back to the list to refresh my memory. It's a report we did a year ago.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I probably would need to go back and look at which ones specifically, but that's also a good question for ministers. They would be in a better position to determine why some targets changed. I can have an indication. I can provide the committee with a list of which ones did cha

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It's probably related to recruitment and staff retention. Expertise is in high demand in a number of sectors, such as health and social services and economic development. So the two departments are probably facing challenges recruiting a skilled workforce that can provide the ver

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I've commented before in general, and I can be a bit more specific here. Departments can set their own departmental indicators and their own targets. It's surprising to see that out of 20, only four were reached in 2022-23 by Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canad

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I agree with you. I don't think it's done on purpose. I think public servants who come up with these indicators genuinely mean to have the best indicators. However, changing them regularly or frequently does not help for accountability and accountability purposes to track a dep

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It's hard to disagree with that.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I think the likelihood of there continuing to be a gap is there. It's not insignificant.