Government Operations committee  In general, if a two-year delay had pushed back all production, we'd expect the number to be between $4.4 billion and $4.8 billion in terms of additional costs, but based on the most recent figures we have from DND—

Government Operations committee  Do you have that information, Carleigh?

Government Operations committee  That's based on delivery to the Royal Canadian Navy, and also being usable, to the best of my knowledge.

Government Operations committee  We're using the lightship weight based on information provided to us by DND. We did not just make this up. That's a lightship weight that's based on—

Government Operations committee  I hope—

Government Operations committee  That's a mystery to me. As a taxpayer, I hope that their cost estimate ends up being the right one, but I'm very confident that our cost estimate, the $77 billion, is the right one, the accurate one.

Government Operations committee  I haven't looked at the operations and maintenance costs for these surface combatants, but it's true that they add up to a significant portion. They're very likely to be way more than the acquisition costs. I don't have the numbers as to what proportion of the overall defence bud

Government Operations committee  Since defence is an area with a lot of secrets, for obvious reasons, inflation is a little greater. Not many information items or best practices are exchanged. It's not like other areas, where you can easily buy the competitors' products, disassemble them and see the improvements

Government Operations committee  In my opinion they provided all the information that we needed. There was a lot of back and forth, of course, because it's not a simple project. We cannot just get a two-page document or an Excel spreadsheet, but they provided all the information that we needed. We didn't get t

Government Operations committee  Accountability rests with those who ultimately make the decisions.

Government Operations committee  It's not based on any wrongdoing or anything against Canadian shipyards. It's based on the fact that Canadian shipyards don't have the same experience in building military vessels as, for example, the U.S., where it's almost a constant production line, where it churns out militar

Government Operations committee  It's not for me to answer that question. Personally, that's an interesting question, but I'll let better, brighter minds than mine answer that question, especially people who are more versed in military doctrine.

Government Operations committee  That really is a good question. We estimated the costs that have already been committed to build type 26 ships, at least up to this point. We then estimated the costs for building three type 26 ships. We also included the costs of restarting a competitive procurement process to

Government Operations committee  We accounted for that in our cost estimates. We also accounted for the fact that, in general, when building ships, the first is much more expensive because we do not have the expertise and we can't achieve any economies of scale. As the ships are built, we achieve the economies o

Government Operations committee  We used a model based on different parameters to estimate the total cost of a ship procurement program. We used it to determine, in retrospect, what the results would have been if we had used that method for the costs that are already known. As an example, we considered procureme