Human Resources committee  I'm not sure about other housing programs, but admin costs ranging at about 10% are not uncommon—I would say unfortunately—especially for programs that disburse millions of dollars to one recipient. It's not atypical to have admin costs of about 10% of total program costs. For

Human Resources committee  It means we can't follow specific dollars from [Inaudible—Editor]—

Human Resources committee  Well, we don't have a pure connection.

Human Resources committee  We don't know for sure. That's right. We can't attach one dollar of federal expenditures to that specific aboriginal housing. That's why we had to make assumptions as to the proportion. If a province spends half of its own funding, we would assume that half of the federal dollars

Human Resources committee  It's subsidized—

Human Resources committee  Yes. It could be a mix of funding that comes from the feds, from the province or the municipality, in some instances.

Human Resources committee  It's data that we got from CMHC.

Human Resources committee  I think it's what they've achieved, but I'll turn to—

Human Resources committee  I don't know all the details—

Human Resources committee  —of every single program.

Human Resources committee  We can get back to you on that.

Human Resources committee  I can't really comment on that because that would venture into the policy world, but I think your question is very valid. However, as I understand it, rapid housing is in the early stages. As I said before, there are many programs, so looking at one program in isolation doesn't g

Human Resources committee  I'll ask Ben, Mark or Caroline to step in to answer what was included in the administrative cost, in order to give you a more fulsome response, if they have the details, but from the outset I'll say that it's data that was provided by government departments. I don't know the leve

Human Resources committee  I don't have that information off the top of my head, the quantified affordability gap for each of these two cities. If Ben, Mark or Caroline know off the top of their head they can provide that information, or if not, we can provide that in writing to you after the meeting.

Human Resources committee  I'm not sure about rent control. That's a decision that would have to be made by governments. I won't pronounce on that. Other jurisdictions have done that in the past, with some different results. One thing is for sure, without additional investments, and with a growing indige