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Public Safety committee  As far as the AED is concerned, you're never going to use it in the wrong situation. It will not shock if it's not supposed to shock. It's built into the software and it looks at ECG rhythm. We in the medical field know what we're looking at when we look at that monitor. We know

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  As I said, CPR only lengthens the amount of time that you're in that VTach or VFib. Those are the only two rhythms that can be shocked. Unlike TV where they're shocking somebody who has flatlined, that's not the way it works. When you're flatlined, drugs may get you out but you'r

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  The faster that AED gets on, the better chance you have of getting that person while they're still in that shockable rhythm. Once they're outside of that shockable rhythm, your only chance at that point is drugs, and the general public is not carrying epinephrine or vasopressin,

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  We don't have those numbers in front of us. The person who would have the numbers would probably be in the Ottawa Paramedic Service. Everyone who is resuscitated in the community—again, you're only seeing people that it's successful on—are brought to the heart institute, to the C

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  With no AED, they're zero. You're not going to get them out of VT or VF, which are the two shockable rhythms, without applying an AED on them. CPR only keeps you in that rhythm long enough for either drugs or an AED to be applied. My real job outside of volunteering is as an IC

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  Can I take that one again, just given our recent incident? We did our critical stress key debriefing last night with my members who were involved in that resuscitation. I was actually on the scene as well for it. It makes it a lot easier when you're having that debriefing to be a

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  As I said earlier, I think the more out there the better it is and the faster time we have to get them in places. As far as arenas are concerned, in the city of Ottawa alone there have been multiple instances, even this year, of people being resuscitated at hockey rinks on the ic

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel

Public Safety committee  There are programs throughout the world that have apps that will tell you where the closest AED is. There is one, I believe, in Canada as well. I don't think there's one in Ontario at this point in time. Yes, that would be beneficial in buildings where AEDs are already in place.

October 2nd, 2018Committee meeting

Andrew Stanzel