International Trade committee  MacDougall Steel is working with the local Prince Edward Island government, trying to navigate the different systems that we can try to get through on this.

International Trade committee  We appreciate that.

International Trade committee  Yes. We buy beams from the U.S. and HSS materials from Canada. Some jumbo sizes that aren't available in Canada we get from the U.S., so we get hit twice.

International Trade committee  It's just the W shape, so it's beams, essentially.

International Trade committee  There's no tariff from Canada on the beams, I believe.

International Trade committee  No. There is no tariff on our materials. It's fabricated structural steel. The tariff is only on raw materials.

International Trade committee  Sure.

International Trade committee  Well, when we purchase our products, we typically purchase from service centres. The service centre will buy that material from the United States—

International Trade committee  —then he would give me a price on the material that includes the tariff, and then I just pay the bottom price I get.

International Trade committee  That's one of our questions.

International Trade committee  That's our question today.

International Trade committee  We don't know that, no.

International Trade committee  I want to thank the committee for extending this opportunity to MSE today. Here is a little introduction. MacDougall Steel Erectors Inc., MSE, has been a family-owned business since its inception in 1998. MSE fabricates and erects structural steel and miscellaneous metals for o