Public Accounts committee  We will come back with what we find.

Public Accounts committee  Throughout the venture and the project, it always remained within the delegated authorities of the department, so there was no reason for us to step in. Honestly, the development of such an app lies with the expertise of the departments themselves. There was no reason at that ti

Public Accounts committee  When we say there were 118 contracts, it doesn't mean that all the contracts were not done in a fair and transparent fashion and that the work was not performed. With GC Strategies, we had an audit on the contracts and we know what the outcomes were. I'm not going to conclude wit

Public Accounts committee  First of all, you made a point on the bureaucracy. There are, I've heard, a lot of procurement officers today who are not liking what they see, because they take very high pride in how they do their work. They do it extremely well and do it within the rules, and again, they don't

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry, sir. Do you mean within Treasury Board or do you mean—

Public Accounts committee  Government-wide, I don't have that information right now. I don't know—

Public Accounts committee  I could see what's in the art of the possible. I'd have to talk to my colleague, who is the chief human resources officer for the Government of Canada. We are digging into our own information, obviously, so we would have to see what—

Public Accounts committee  For all of government, no.

Public Accounts committee  For all departments, we don't have that list. We have a list inside the TBS of our employees who did declare potential conflicts and—

Public Accounts committee  Madam Cahill will say.

Public Accounts committee  Can I come back to you? As I said, it doesn't fall in...but we'll check.

Public Accounts committee  As I said, this doesn't fall under my purview. However, definitely, if there's an ask from the committee, we'll have to figure that out. Departments will be on the hook to give the information to someone so we can give it to the committee or give it to the.... We'll have to figur

Public Accounts committee  I can't talk about this particular case, but fundamentally, to your question, I note that the directive on conflict of interest says it's not disallowed, but it really raises flags to the effect that if you're going to have secondary employment and there's going to be any perceiv

Public Accounts committee  I can't talk about this case because I don't know exactly the work that was delivered. I have no clue about the contract itself and the—

Public Accounts committee  Let me be clear: If there is a conflict of interest, no, it's not allowed.