Justice committee  That's right. You touched on big tech and big government. I think we've seen some steps that have been taken in Europe by the European Commission. I would suggest there is a real issue of censorship creep with some of those steps taken. You touched on it, but you didn't have an

Justice committee  In that vein, we've seen examples from Antifa, for example, which has expressly incited violence. Social media platforms have refused to take that content down, so we see the inconsistency. In 2016, the European Commission entered into an agreement with YouTube, Facebook, Twitte

Justice committee  Thank you very much to the witnesses. Mr. Cameron, your client, who endured a complaint through the Human Rights Commission that was ultimately withdrawn and who was subject to enormous cost in her life, would not be entitled to costs. Is that right?

Justice committee  To that end, could you confirm that under the framework of the Canadian Human Rights Act, if there were a frivolous and vexatious complaint made, a respondent would be statutorily barred from suing? Is that right?

Justice committee  Ms. Klinck, you stated that in terms of criminal law reform, similar to some other witnesses, the law should be reflect intent and actual transmission. I'm still trying to understand those situations where someone who isn't on antiretrovirals, who is at a significant risk—let's

Justice committee  So, you don't really have a problem where there is an active misrepresentation and a significant risk of transmission. That's okay?

Justice committee  Mr. Ryan, do you have anything to say in response to that?

Justice committee  Thank you.

Justice committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the witnesses. I'll direct my first question to Mr. Ryan. You stated that the criminalization of HIV non-disclosure discourages testing. What evidence do you have to back that up?

Justice committee  You're quite right, but if we were to apply that directive, that would take that off the table.

Justice committee  Let me just cite the case of Aziga, just so we're very clear. In that case, that individual had sex with 11 victims without telling any of them that he had HIV status. Two of the victims died in association with HIV infection. Another five were infected with the virus. The remain

Justice committee  They couldn't answer what the distinction was between actual and non-actual in the context of blameworthy conduct.

Justice committee  By citing a specific case?

Justice committee  Right, but I'm trying to understand situations where someone did not transmit but they engaged in very blameworthy conduct, whether it be a failure to comply with public health interventions, whether they took advantage of someone who was vulnerable deliberately, or whether they

Justice committee  Sorry, but it's my time. Where has the criminal law gone off the rails? Can you cite a few cases?