Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, we'd love to come.

Natural Resources committee  We'd love to come visit you and help with that. The thing that has not allowed us to move into these additional markets is the lack of transparency on when funding is coming in and out of the market. If there were a long-term plan, a long-term strategy for capital to do these typ

Natural Resources committee  The private sector will innovate. If you fund the goal, if you have dollars available to implement energy efficiency opportunities to reach specific GHG reduction targets for specific kilowatt hour reductions, the private sector will innovate to hit those. It's a competitive mark

Natural Resources committee  Just anecdotally, people don't really care about energy efficiency. People care about the benefits, the things that come out of energy efficiency. Energy efficiency is not very tangible. A warmer home is more tangible. A lower bill is more tangible. Less mould in their house is t

Natural Resources committee  To add to that, we would like to see a much more holistic, long-term approach to energy efficiency. In my testimony, I said that funding that's coming and going in the market, that's in and out, has been detrimental to the industry. Having a long-term, holistic approach to fundin

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, we see that problem all the time and Len's point about having tenants and landlords at odds for who pays the energy bill and who should front the cost of capital to do these upgrades. A common thing that we see...I think a really good example of a program that gets p

Natural Resources committee  In indigenous communities, they don't have the capital required to pay for long-term community energy planning, the assessment component, and to pay for the capital requirements for these upgrades. If we look at the supply in diesel costs that are being subsidized to these commun

Natural Resources committee  We would work with the specific community on a specific project, and take that project to different funding bodies or look at various funding opportunities that fit that project at all levels of government. The problem we face is these projects are often relatively innovative i

Natural Resources committee  That's a great question. We do an annual report at the end of the year for our emission reductions as well as some of our other stats—how much coffee we drink and things like that. We will have those numbers in the next few weeks, and we'd be happy to share them with you.

Natural Resources committee  I think talking about the supply side, solar, and the demand side from energy efficiency, it's really important to look at those two technologies holistically. If we look at a community and they have energy consumption, you're going to have to build a solar facility to match that

Natural Resources committee  Yes, in a way. Currently, most of these communities are on diesel generators, and the diesel is covered by the federal government or utilities. The savings are actually on both sides. The communities get better housing. That's the big driver—to have more comfortable housing, more

Natural Resources committee  That's right.

Natural Resources committee  In the modelling we use HOT2000 as our baseline for modelling in these homes, which is a standard used across Canada.

Natural Resources committee  To add to that, as we have the whole value chain under our belt, it allows us to create feedback loops. When we are looking at the performance of modelling versus actual data, we see we can incorporate that feedback right through our entire process to allow us to continually iter

Natural Resources committee  A half of our work is from the private sector, so commercial and institutional buildings, and the other half is from public funds at various levels of government. The work we do services distinct markets that are—