Justice committee  —across Canada, and it is up to the lobbyist to list, as the lobbyist has done, the topics that we covered.

Justice committee  Again, I have no strong recollection of the meeting. As I said, it is up to the lobbyist to report—

Justice committee  It was my practice to have either my parliamentary secretary assistant or a member of my Hill staff at the meeting. We have been unable yet to ascertain with ISED who the person was staffing me at the meeting. We can get back to you on that. But I can tell you that—

Justice committee  I can tell you—

Justice committee  —Mr. Cooper, that there wasn't, I recall, any strong action item as a result of that meeting, either.

Justice committee  It's either the parliamentary secretary assistant or the staff.

Justice committee  I will undertake to find out who staffed me at that meeting or, indeed, if the meeting actually existed, because oftentimes, as you know, on the lobbying record, lobbyists throw in....

Justice committee  But I won't undertake—

Justice committee  No, I didn't undertake those two things. I'm going to take on advisement whether I can produce those notes.

Justice committee  That quote was recorded on the 8th of February, I believe, the day after the revelations broke. At that point in time, we had only unsubstantiated, anonymous sources in The Globe and Mail, and we had the Prime Minister's unequivocal denial that any wrongdoing had happened.

Justice committee  That is precisely the answer, from what I had seen.

Justice committee  Absolutely. As I said in my opening remarks, the Attorney General can't be an island. The whole point of the Shawcross doctrine is that an attorney general can speak with cabinet colleagues about a variety of different considerations that might be pertinent to his or her decision

Justice committee  It depends on the timeline of the discussion and the prosecution, but I can't say without any further context what would be appropriate or inappropriate.

Justice committee  I think, once again, the Shawcross doctrine would apply. Those kinds of conversations would be appropriate to the Attorney General contemplating a decision on whether or not to direct a remediation agreement, but it is up to the Attorney General to make that decision himself or

Justice committee  I have not.