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Public Safety committee  That's actually an issue that's near and dear to my heart. One of the things that we face in Canadian telecommunications infrastructure—and some more detail could probably be provided by colleagues at Innovation, Science, and Economic Development—is that our infrastructure tends

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  I think there are a few things. We are taking quite a bit of action to try to raise that bar on cybersecurity, some them very public and some of them private. We are doing things. We have things that we call “strategic mitigation plans”, which directly address the threats mention

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  It's a program that's in place now. It can be looked at that way, but at a rate that is affordable for a small or medium-sized organization to attain. The ISO standards tend to be unaffordable for other than the largest organizations.

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  Absolutely, we know about them. It's always good to see any organization stand up. We have never claimed to have a monopoly on innovation or on addressing this problem. We try to come humbly to the table with our knowledge, knowing that others have expertise and will come at the

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  This is going to come across as a little bragging. These organizations all existed. Public Safety Canada, for example, had the Get Cyber Safe campaign ahead of time. At CSE we've had the IT security branch since the late forties or early fifties, primarily based on cryptography b

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  A bit of some of that might touch on some classified issues, but I can certainly talk about it and hope I answer your question fully. There are a few things. Typically, what we're talking about here is that the way the Internet routes itself is that it works on what is the cheap

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. We started with the telecommunications sector, where we see from a cybersecurity perspective that they're the root of so much, but then we've expanded that into the energy sector, particularly concentrating on the electricity sector from coast to coast. So we do have

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  That's a great question because it's something that we face in the government all the time. It really comes down to accessibility. Does every Canadian have the technology necessary to access using facial recognition? It's not foolproof. It is one factor. We always say there are

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  Absolutely, it's a much higher hurdle to jump over than if you have a simple and easily guessed password and you reuse your password.

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  I'll have to stick to the cyber advice, which would be our expertise. First, if you do see something, whether it's a text message that seems to be spam or an email, report that. There are various ways to do it to your service providers. If you fill in 7726, which spells “SPAM” o

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  I think the challenge I face here is really from a cybersecurity perspective. My advice would really be to the potential victims and how to protect things, protect themselves and try to keep themselves from getting into that situation, and really thinking before you share informa

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  That's an interesting question. I think we're faced with the challenge that an insider threat, which is really what we're talking about, is something that kind of hits different facets. One is that the person is in a position of trust and does do have access to types of data and

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  I fear that's a question that gets me into legal territory, for which I am wholly unqualified.

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones

Public Safety committee  Great. Thank you for that question. There are risks, and it depends on which country we're looking at. Specifically recall that we talked about state-owned enterprises and partnering with those. This is where, depending on the Canadian business, there's quite a lot of advice out

December 9th, 2020Committee meeting

Scott Jones