Environment committee  It doesn't work for me.

Environment committee  Thank you.

Environment committee  Okay, I'll get to it quickly. Mr. Sopuck has asked me to ask you this, Joanna. You noted that there were answers to his very specific questions. Could you provide this committee with the evidence that you've referenced? Going back to Joanna, I'm going to quote you here. Your

Environment committee  Those goals are pretty clear. They're outlined in the Paris Agreement, and individual provinces have set those goals. You're familiar with them. What carbon price will it take achieve those?

Environment committee  You want to see it keep going up—

Environment committee  Okay. The last question is going back to the low-carbon fuel that you talked about, Massimo. You mentioned that there was a lack of political will to get that goal done. Can you tell me how that lack of political will has manifested itself and what we can do to address it?

Environment committee  Thank you for saying that a package of policies is required. I totally agree with you. Our beef, of course, with the current government is that they have said that the one policy you have to have is a carbon tax, that all the other policies are optional and every province can co

Environment committee  Survival.

Environment committee  You didn't need a carbon tax to incent you to get this done.

Environment committee  All right. I think I heard you mention two solutions and one was a carbon offset model. Tell me what that looks like.

Environment committee  I understand. Could you provide our committee with a bit of a sketch—you don't have to do that now—

Environment committee  —supplementary to your appearance here today, with an idea of what those offsets might be, at least the ones that might work for your industry? It's not only your industry. We've heard from the refining industry. We know the cement industry is in deep. They've been provided with

Environment committee  There are other industries that are looking for a way of addressing their emissions that doesn't involve a carbon pricing model that undermines their competitiveness. The final question for you is this. You also mentioned a low-carbon fuel future which is going to require techno

Environment committee  Thank you very much. I've listened very carefully to the presentations and I first of all want to address the issue of British Columbia. Joanna, you're from B.C. Is that correct?

Environment committee  You're not. Okay, I am. I have lived the B.C. carbon tax and, as you know, the tax was promised to be revenue neutral and to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. I want to read something that is less than a year old. It's from the Sierra Club: “B.C.’s latest emissions data mark y