Procedure and House Affairs committee  Can I add a little context?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We have already talked about the idea of providing the costs associated with the options presented. We will be presenting initial estimates. That will not be a budget, just to be clear. The budget is established once we have determined all the details.

Government Operations committee  Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'll be very brief on this one. This is a procurement process competitively awarded. The department actually feels that it was a fair evaluation. It's gone to CITT—

Government Operations committee  Yes, Mr. Chair, we do, and we have done evaluation twice now in response to CITT findings. We struck a second evaluation team with brand new people, did it a second time, and it has come out the same.

Government Operations committee  I can't say what the cost for the legal fees of the challenge will be, but we're—

Government Operations committee  I can when it's all wrapped up, but this is a long file.

Government Operations committee  Absolutely.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair, I'll start, but I may turn to Mr. Fillion for some additional detail. The AOPS contract for ship number one is very close to being delivered, this spring. We're not anticipating extra costs because of that delay. These are just delays—

Government Operations committee  The surface combatant reference you made—

Government Operations committee  My understanding is that there are no added costs, but I want to turn to Mr. Fillion to confirm.

Government Operations committee  Thank you, Minister and Mr. Chair. I have just a quick addition to this. Obviously, to power federal buildings with clean electricity you have to have a clean grid. The federal government is a large consumer because of the footprint we have from a real property perspective. If t

Government Operations committee  I would like to add one more thing. In fact, it was really a way of establishing the real costs of administering the benefits. For our accommodation services related to pension, we recover that from the pension fund. This is really just bookkeeping to make sure that the pension

Government Operations committee  That amount is allocated to the administration of the pension plan, not to Phoenix. That's different.

Government Operations committee  In fact, we do that every year, in order to outline the real costs associated with the administration of the pension plan, after we do a financial audit of the actual costs.

Government Operations committee  There is a budgeting process for departments. Most budgets are regularly included in the Main Estimates, but other budgets follow a different process that involves adjusting the numbers throughout the year. That is the case here. Every year we do an audit to outline the actual c