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Natural Resources committee  I think there definitely has to be more time for engagement and more time to build that relationship through the consultation process. All companies are different. Some companies meet minimum requirements, and I think we have to upgrade those minimum requirements to an internatio

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  No. My team is not that big and my team is not growing, meaning that I try to get my community members.... I have to educate my community members because they're going to be the ones who are sustainable. Before, I'd have to use money and hire a high-priced consultant and put a lo

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  That's a very big question. I can't answer that one in 10 minutes, but I know exactly what you mean: I live in the Peace River area. In the Grande Prairie area, which is three hours from where I live, they do a lot of fracking for the gas. I'd like to say we've got to somehow i

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I do know that there's been a willingness to work together more. If there's a measuring stick for the last 20 years, we are doing better today than we have in the last 20 years. When I think about forestry, there has been more scientific evidence and areas where we are trying to

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, a little bit of both. As an elected chief I'm an elected official, so they give me the ability to speak on their behalf. It is in the best interests of my community and I am obligated to be the best that I can be for them. I do invite my elders when I can, and we're

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I just want to interpret what Mr. Benjamin said, that Canada operates on a “do as I say, not as I do” process. That's just what I interpreted there. That does have to change. I like how he brought up the provincial barriers. When the treaty was signed, we were signed before the

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I'll support all my chiefs' statements. Yes, it's worrisome. To me, it feels like the consultation process has just been a checkmark chore, where the actual consultation has not been either adequate or designed for the intent of it.

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  Absolutely, it's not a best practice. How I got involved in that situation is that the first nations from the coast, even from Haida Gwaii, got together. They were saying that they could see tankers going by their territories on a daily basis. This is from them; I'm just kind of

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  Okay. The question is with free.... Can you say that again?

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  In Canada, in Alberta, even in the western provinces, it's a big demographic situation. When you talk specifically, let's say you use that on the oil and gas sector. In my area, it's a lot of in situ steam under the ground and it's not as big a footprint as in the Fort McMurray a

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  Like I said, my interpretation or definition of consultation—the ruling of consultation—is meaningful consultation, where I know exactly what the other side of the table is talking about. You could spin it around, shake it upside down and turn it all around, but I know exactly wh

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I'd like to say absolutely. We could definitely do a better job in that area, meaning that if I had the tools and the funding to do that, I think we absolutely could provide a better outcome.

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I think mutual benefit agreements are good, but again, if I had the proper capacity behind me, I'd be able to say that more eloquently.

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  I'd have to say no, because that isn't a direct area that I've worked in. That might have been in the more eastern area, into the Fort McMurray area, I'm assuming. I just don't have much information in that specific area.

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom

Natural Resources committee  Treaty No. 8. My wife is from Treaty No. 6.

April 2nd, 2019Committee meeting

Chief Isaac Laboucan-Avirom