Public Accounts committee  Again, to answer your question, I will just ask you what you are referring to. Do you have the page number maybe?

Public Accounts committee  Maybe you could repeat your question. Maybe I will—

Public Accounts committee  Just give me a minute here.... We're referring to the 2018-19 departmental results report. I'm in the report at exhibit 9, where there are perhaps a dozen targets. So I'm not sure which one you're referring to, but there's a dozen of them. If I go through them quickly, there is

Public Accounts committee  Let me turn to another one here. We have one on internal service standards, which is, for example, the IT system being up and running all the time or not out of service for more than, let's say, four hours for a key system. So on that one, we had one IT system that was off for mo

Public Accounts committee  I'm going to ask Mr. Hayes to add here. I'll give one little example that we've been discussing over the years. I referred earlier to the special examinations that we do once every 10 years per Crown corporation. Not all Crown corporations are the same size or bring the same ri

Public Accounts committee  I will confirm that I was clear last year, that without the $10.8 million we're not properly funded, and that's still the case. It's not appropriate for us to have to negotiate our funding level with organizations that we audit. That's just not appropriate. Getting funding from

Public Accounts committee  I wasn't quite prepared to discuss the performance report. Which year are you referring to?

Public Accounts committee  The one that was tabled yesterday.... Okay, fair enough.

Public Accounts committee  Well, I—

Public Accounts committee  Indeed, that's one of the realities that come with it. You cannot interest young people these days with old technology. That's a major challenge. I mentioned earlier that back in 2011, when we returned some funds, we had just replaced our key audit tool and we now have to replac

Public Accounts committee  In terms of recruitment, obviously, that's direct competition for our business, so that doesn't help us. What helps us, though, is that we managed over the last year to work hard at earning two things: being an employer of choice in the national capital region and being an employ

Public Accounts committee  I will make life easier for myself and use the words of the former Auditor General, who spoke of "incomprehensible failure". This would not have happened if good controls had been put in place and if there had been good discussions. Once again, during last summer's audits of the

Public Accounts committee  I don't remember if I mentioned it earlier. I'll give you the list of examinations. These special examinations are given to the boards of directors, who must make them public and give them to the minister. Once the special examinations have been tabled and made public, we attach

Public Accounts committee  Do you mean ours at the OAG?

Public Accounts committee  Because there have been reports from the Auditor General over the years in terms of the broader picture in the federal government.... So, as I mentioned earlier, one of our main systems is running on DOS—