Finance committee  It's $448 billion.

Finance committee  You can correct me if I'm wrong, but it has been trending downwards.

Finance committee  It currently has $488 billion of guarantees in force.

Finance committee  For the last five years, I don't have that number. In the last year, it looks like it has increased by about $16 billion.

Finance committee  Yes, I can.

Finance committee  I'm David LeDrew, senior adviser, housing finance.